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Manafort needs a new word for how FUCKED he is and a transcription of case numbers for the various court cases of the Trump-Russia investigation or those related to it (thank eagle109, who is currently suffering right now)

Aaron Fox

SB's Minor Junker Descendant and Hunter of Nazis
Remember when Manafort's incompetent lawyers unintentionally released rather damning evidence? As in 'a literal step away from the constitutional definition of treason' damning? As in 'giving Russia the keys to the US internet population' damning? Yeah, Manafort is needs new words to describe how fucked he is.

Also, just in case you want to know which court cases are part of this investigation, I'll give you what eagle109 has remembered off the top of his head:

At the top of my head from the District Court of District of Columbia (DCDC), the Eastern District of Virginia (EDVA), and the Southern District of New York (SDNY) district courts:

- Michael Cohen with SDNY (Case No. 1:18-cr-00602-WHP is on the various finance violations, and No. 1:18-cr-00850-WHP is lying to Congress; Case No. 1:18-mj-03161-KMW is "Cohen v. US" regarding the FBI's warrant-gramted raid on his office/home/hotel)

- Paul Manafort has one in the Eastern District of VA (EDVA No. 1:18-cr-00083-TSE) and one in the District Court of District of Columbia (DCDC No. 1:17-cr-00201-ABJ)

- Rick Gates with DCDC (DCDC No. 1:17-cr-00201-ABJ), and the EDVA (EDVA 1:18-cr-00083-TSE); Gates was indicted alongside Manafort, hence why they share case numbers

- Konstantin Kilimnik (DCDC No. 1:17-cr-00201-ABJ; same reason with Gates)

- Michael Flynn (DCDC No. 1:17-cr-00232-EGS)

- George Papadopoulos (DCDC No. 1:17-cr-00182-RDM)

- W. Samuel Patten (DCDC No. 1:18-cr-00260-ABJ)

- Maria Butina (DCDC No. 1:18-cr-00218-TSC)

- Alex Van der Zwaan (DCDC No. 1:18-cr-00031-ABJ)

- Richard Pinedo (DCDC No. 1:18-cr-00024-DLF)

- Jerome Corsi (DCDC No. 1:18-cv-02885-RJL)

- The Internet Research Agency, et al./Concord Management and Consulting, LLC (DCDC No. 1:18-cr-00032-DLF)

Speaking of Flynn, here's the December 18, 2018 transcript before Judge Sullivan, where Sullivan mentions treason. (Thank you, Luqman Adeniyi of CNN.)
Cohen Agrees to Testify to Congress - NY Times

Aaron Fox

SB's Minor Junker Descendant and Hunter of Nazis
F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia - New York Times, January 11, 2019, 8:18 PM EST and Update

Aaron Fox

SB's Minor Junker Descendant and Hunter of Nazis
F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia - New York Times, January 11, 2019, 8:18 PM EST, updated 8:26 PM EST
In the days after President Trump fired James B. Comey as F.B.I. director, law enforcement officials became so concerned by the president’s behavior that they began investigating whether he had been working on behalf of Russia against American interests, according to former law enforcement officials and others familiar with the investigation.


The investigation the F.B.I. opened into Mr. Trump also had a criminal aspect, which has long been publicly known: whether his firing of Mr. Comey constituted obstruction of justice.

Agents and senior F.B.I. officials had grown suspicious of Mr. Trump’s ties to Russia during the 2016 campaign but held off on opening an investigation into him, the people said, in part because they were uncertain how to proceed with an inquiry of such sensitivity and magnitude. But the president’s activities before and after Mr. Comey’s firing in May 2017, particularly two instances in which Mr. Trump tied the Comey dismissal to the Russia investigation, helped prompt the counterintelligence aspect of the inquiry, the people said.


Mr. Trump had caught the attention of F.B.I. counterintelligence agents when he called on Russia during a campaign news conference in July 2016 to hack into the emails of his opponent, Hillary Clinton. Mr. Trump had refused to criticize Russia on the campaign trail, praising President Vladimir V. Putin. And investigators had watched with alarm as the Republican Party softened its convention platform on the Ukraine crisis in a way that seemed to benefit Russia.
A Mueller Friday had occurred... despite the shutdown...

The constraints that Trump imposed are part of a broader pattern by the president of shielding his communications with Putin from public scrutiny and preventing even high-ranking officials in his own administration from fully knowing what he has told one of the United States’ main adversaries.

As a result, U.S. officials said there is no detailed record, even in classified files, of Trump’s face-to-face interactions with the Russian leader at five locations over the past two years. Such a gap would be unusual in any presidency, let alone one that Russia sought to install through what U.S. intelligence agencies have described as an unprecedented campaign of election interference.


The meeting in Hamburg happened several months after The Washington Post and other news organizations revealed details about what Trump had told senior Russian officials during a meeting with Russian officials in the Oval Office. Trump disclosed classified information about a terror plot, called former FBI director James B. Comey a “nut job,” and said that firing Comey had removed “great pressure” on his relationship with Russia.


Senior Trump administration officials said that White House officials including then-National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster were never able to obtain a comprehensive account of the meeting, even from Tillerson.

“We were frustrated because we didn’t get a readout,” a former senior administration official said. “The State Department and [National Security Council] were never comfortable” with Trump’s interactions with Putin, the official said. “God only knows what they were going to talk about or agree to.”
... there is oh so much wrong with Trump and Co (and his buddies in the GOP) that under any normal circumstances, we would be seeing recalls and impeachments across the board... but these aren't normal circumstances. To quote the ever reliable eagle109 at SB:
eagle109 said:
We all knew the sheer amount of effort Trump goes into wanting "alone-time" with Putin-sempai, but THIS following-up from the NYT article... ARRGH. This is not "[executing] the office of President of the United States", never mind "[preserving], [protecting], and [defending] the Constitution of the United States." And the majority of the GOP in both chambers of Congress are also failing to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic", never mind "[bearing] true faith and allegiance to the same", or "without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion" (because look at the amount of nothing the GOP Chairs of the various investigatory committees did or fucked up, like when Nunes was Chair of House Intel).
Mueller Probes an Event With Nunes, Flynn, and Foreign Officials at Trump’s D.C. Hotel - The Daily Beast, January 14, 2019, 8:02 PM EST

Aaron Fox

SB's Minor Junker Descendant and Hunter of Nazis
Mueller Probes an Event With Nunes, Flynn, and Foreign Officials at Trump’s D.C. Hotel - The Daily Beast, January 14, 2019, 8:02 PM EST
The Special Counsel’s Office and federal prosecutors in Manhattan are scrutinizing a meeting involving former House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, one-time National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, and dozens of foreign officials, according to three sources familiar with the investigations.

The breakfast event, which was first reported by The Daily Sabah, a pro-government Turkish paper, took place at 8:30 a.m. at the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C. on Jan. 18, 2017—days before President Donald Trump’s inauguration. About 60 people were invited, including diplomats from governments around the world, according to those same sources.

The breakfast has come under scrutiny by federal prosecutors in Manhattan as part of their probe into whether the Trump inaugural committee misspent funds and if donors tried to buy influence in the White House. The existence of that probe was first reported by the Wall Street Journal. The Special Counsel’s Office is also looking at the breakfast as part of its investigation into whether foreigners contributed money to the Trump inaugural fund and PAC by possibly using American intermediaries, as first reported by The New York Times. Robert Mueller’s team has asked Flynn about the event, according to two sources familiar with the Special Counsel’s Office questioning.


“If you’re a prosecutor all of the right players are there,” said former federal prosecutor Paul Pelletier, referring to the breakfast. “In a lot of ways breakfasts like this are totally normal. It happens all the time in Washington. So, they wouldn’t be investigating it if they weren’t following the money. The big question would be who is paying for it? It’s got to be part of the broader scheme of who is trying to use money to influence the White House.”
Nunes... we haven't forgotten about you...

Aaron Fox

SB's Minor Junker Descendant and Hunter of Nazis
Yeah a dear wish of mine be for Trump and allnof his shit flinging cronies to be put against a wall. But realisticly jail will hopefully their future
Actually, everything that has been coming in so far has been well within the bounds of sedition and espionage, and literally a hop away from the constitutional definition of treason (that hop? All congress has to do is define Russia as an enemy). Hell one of Trump's cronies had their judge outright say what he did is treason... and that has never happened before.
Trump Discussed Pulling U.S. From NATO, Aides Say Amid New Concerns Over Russia -NYTimes

Aaron Fox

SB's Minor Junker Descendant and Hunter of Nazis
Senior administration officials told The New York Times that several times over the course of 2018, Mr. Trump privately said he wanted to withdraw from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Current and former officials who support the alliance said they feared Mr. Trump could return to his threat as allied military spending continued to lag behind the goals the president had set.

In the days around a tumultuous NATO summit meeting last summer, they said, Mr. Trump told his top national security officials that he did not see the point of the military alliance, which he presented as a drain on the United States.
... Trump, you are seriously not helping your case here...

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