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Heresy

Well-known member
@Rodyle I don’t like Morphile one bit but I doubt he’s actually a fascist.

I posit instead that he’s the naive moron that actual fascists love to use to advance their agenda, the useful idiots we often make reference too.

I make this statement working from my own personal experiences, because I know several other dumbasses that think like him, one of which argued that the civil rights movements made people even more racist and that if it hadn’t happened said civil rights would come on their own and the other believes that Ben Shapiro could defeat Al Baghdadi and ISIS by debating them.

Either way even if Morphile had either the brains or social skills to actually be an effective cryptofascist, which he doesn’t, everyone already thinks he’s just a harmless idiot, which he is, and so you’re asking for @Lord Inquisitor Adornable to punish him being idiot which isn’t against the rules.

Either way my suggestion to dealing with them is to just save time and data and keep him blocked like I’ve decided to do as well.
 

Morphile

Well-known member
Either way even if Morphile had either the brains or social skills to actually be an effective cryptofascist, which he doesn’t
...Do you have any idea how much I've had to change my posting habits to keep away from Rule 8 violations on QQ? Or infractions for wrongthink on SV? Hell, I routinely jump into Whitehall and actually refrain from getting tangled in arguments, even after sunk cost gets me through a whole thread with responses to posts on every page.

Being a cryptofascist has nothing to do with social skills and everything to do with just keeping your damn mouth shut on the right details, something shared with literally every form of speech restriction violation avoidance. The only intelligence to it is knowing which details you can get away with, which is a really low bar to clear when it comes to fascism. Take it from someone stuck with much more formal speech than they actually use in person because of getting in too many forums that have details of their views banned.

Also, you're the lot who keep giving citations that fail to actually back your arguments, have genuine flaws to nitpick and, occasionally, directly contradict your claims (you tried to use 20% composition to say a group wasn't a vocal minority!). You are the ones who keep using horrible debating practice. Dismissing your opponents' sources as invalid, using ones that fail to support your claims, using ones with genuine methodological issues, and to boot Rodyle has flat-out admitted to Muting opposing opinions. The only people I've ever muted are porn bots on Gab. Mostly because I'm so curious that I can't stand not having the full context of an argument, so the one time I muted an actual person, it took only a couple hours before my curiosity drove me to unmute them because they actually participated in discussion and I try to understand both sides.

Either way my suggestion to dealing with them is to just save time and data and keep him blocked like I’ve decided to do as well.
...Oh. Is that why you stopped replying to me? @Lord Inquisitor Adornable, can we see about getting mutes removed for News and Politics due to being a flat refusal to engage in debate? Or at least a banner or something that shows a person's blocked you? Because I only caught this after getting all the stuff above typed out.
 

Rodyle

Socialist Slut
Banned
Either way my suggestion to dealing with them is to just save time and data and keep him blocked like I’ve decided to do as well.
Oh I do have him blocked. I unfold blocked posts from a page if it gets too incomprehensible though.

Anyway I maintain he's a cryptofash (which is again not mutually exclusive with being an idiot, actually I would put it as more of just a circle than a Venn diagram), simply because he is far too up-to-date on the latest right wing horseshit sometimes not to be running with the crowd a actively.
 

LCDR Stormwalker

The Normie.
One abbreviates them as Fash because you Bash them
I’ve never understood the logic behind that. The people you are calling fascist are usually the same type of people who use firearms as penis extensions and open carry in McDonalds because it annoys people from the opposite political spectrum then them. So if you go trying to “bash” them, or “punch a Nazi” aren’t they likely to just shoot your ass in retaliation?
 

Heresy

Well-known member
I’ve never understood the logic behind that. The people you are calling fascist are usually the same type of people who use firearms as penis extensions and open carry in McDonalds because it annoys people from the opposite political spectrum then them. So if you go trying to “bash” them, or “punch a Nazi” aren’t they likely to just shoot your ass in retaliation?
Actually no. The usual cryptofascist that crawls around on /pol/ and twitter is some out of shape, millennial dipshit or edgy teenager living off mommy and daddy, most of these morons have probably never been in a street fight or actually worked out a day in their life. Then the people that do actually tend to be armed are horribly and I mean horribly out of shape. And even then most of them don’t want to start pulling out guns first because then the police would come out against them instead of constantly siding and defending them like they usually do whenever they come out in public.

Simply put most fascists will get knocked on the ground since they’re not prepared for actual physical confrontation. Which is the point, if too many of them become scared of getting their asses beat to march out in public or air out their disgusting opinions then the antifascists win.
So right after you state that you use a nickname as a call to do violence..... you castigate them for being violent?
Spencer and his ilk would be perfectly happy exterminating me and my family. Finding empathy in my heart for them is a task I’d either have to be a fool or believe safe I’m safe from them to indulge in.
 

Rodyle

Socialist Slut
Banned
"I'm right and they're evil, so if I do it it's excusable, but if they do it it's abhorrent."

You know what, I apologize. I should know better than to try and talk with a fanatic. I'll leave you to it.
Do you think being a fascist is the same as being black

Pretty simple question
 

Rodyle

Socialist Slut
Banned
So since you sidestepped it:

Being a fascist is a choice. It is a deliberate position taken in support of militarization and genocide. Being black is, obviously not.

As for the other: Being socked humiliates you. Being lynched kills you. The left wants Nazis, who choose to support genocide, humiliated and sidelined. Nazis want black and brown people, who were porn with darker skin, fucking dead.

If you equivocate the two, you are either idiotic, malicious, or both. It's that simple.
 

Morphile

Well-known member
Hell

Do you think getting socked in the jaw is the same as getting lynched
Given that it's literally one step away, I consider them equally reprehensible. Also, a large chunk of the reason the Nazi party got in power is because of violent Communists. What do you think the general public sees Antifa as? The entire reason the Nazis gained power is because the public felt unsafe. You're advocating for political violence with an extremely bad conceptualization of your targets, creating a major element of the very same situation responsible for the Nazis coming to power. Your argument for me being cryptofascist is solely that I'm up to date on talking points, rather than any actual fascistic content to my words.

Also, you've entered the habit of completely refusing debate. Rather than genuinely educate me or counteracting my claims of your failure to debate properly, you've constantly resorted to ad-homonyms to say my views are invalid. You have not once explained how my beliefs are genuinely wrong, to my recollection, you just presume yourself correct and shut out dissent when it refuses to capitulate. The stuff peddled to "prove" various groups are fascist have large swaths fit your own side to a T.
 
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Balerion

Well-known member
Careful now, that's Nazi talk. You're going to be on the list if you keep that up.
It's funny because the likes of r/socialism and r/chapotraphouse routinely fantasize about mass guillotining people in the name of the revolution. Because the only way to build paradise is on a pyramid of skulls.

Eta: there is something particularly cruel about the idea that you need to commit unimaginable horrors to achieve paradise.
 
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Ravan

Gone
It's funny because the likes of r/socialism and r/chapotraphouse routinely fantasize about mass guillotining people in the name of the revolution. Because the only way to build paradise is on a pyramid of skulls.

Eta: there is something particularly cruel about the idea that you need to commit unimaginable horrors to achieve paradise.
I just assume everyone on reddit is a loon.
 

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