KeresAcheron
Asocial Quasisocialist
And to my mind, many on the left don't debate anymore. Just verbally felate themselves and call anyone right of Clinton a Nazi or fascist.
But that shouldn't stop calm, reasoned debate about the shape of the country going forward.
And right posts memes and calls everyone they don't like Marxists. They don't debate either.
The problem is the American right and left disagree on basic facts and use different statistics. The american right also lacks a distinctive ideological platform outside of cryto-dominionism and crypto-fascism. The former right wing ideologues have since moved over towards centrist democrats. With neither side being able to agree with the other on basic facts and the right failing to provide an actual ideology to debate against, reasoned debate stops working.
Heck, this threads very first post claimed that right were religious fundamentalists, 4chaners and redpilled men. Such people have such fundamentally different worldview than mainstream society that any debate quickly turnings into arguments if one plus one equals two or not.
The only other poster in this thread to try to put forth a right wing paradigm just used vague buzzwords and talked about how much they hate leftists. Which is the entire conflict in a nutshell, the left and center are divided on actual detailed policies and schools of thought while the right just wants liberal tears and has no detailed ideology beyond white male identity politics.
Since this is supposed to be the right wind thread I'd like for someone to prove me wrong and to provide an actual ideology that isn't based on religion, or white nationalism. (Or Memes, sorry Sarcobite.).
But as far as I can tell, reasoned political debate in this country has been replaced with two separate nation wide circle jerks and a contest of who can be the most smug, condescending cunts.
And the problem is that this result of a series of earlier trends. The cultural divide between the north-east and south-west that makes the two areas almost seperate nations. You have the culture war, started by religious conservatives decades ago, endlessly grow and drag more and more people into it. And you have the post equal time conservative news outlets like Fox News and Alex Jones effectively divided the USA's population among two different media bubbles that made the previous schisms all the worse.
This isn't a new phenomena. It's the result of trends going back decades. And don't see how we reverse. Except by having the side I like actually win the cultural war decisively. The same way they defeated segregation, sexism and homophobia in the past.