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Politics in Games or: how I learned GG was right

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Don't be a jerk.
I'm sorry but the statement I made fun of is ludicrous and one I argued against back in the beginning of the thread by pointing out that liberal left wigers don't love and shill reactionaries like Donald Trump and Marie Le Pen.
A liberal wouldn't call women that have been sexually assaulted and raped whores.
A liberal wouldn't support the Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory.
A liberal wouldn't talk about how Donald Trump is great because he's owning the libs.
Oh and that last one was actually said by him.
A liberal wouldn't get positive reception from a reactionary propaganda rag like Breitbart.
https://www.breitbart.com/london/20...opyright-bullying-against-hilarious-youtuber/
A liberal wouldn't enjoy getting support from someone that's a member of a racist organization like the EDL.
http://archive.is/8pDrx
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Anyone that takes more than cursory glance at who Benjamin's fans are, who he supports and the ideologies he enables will show that argument is ignorant to the point of deliberately burying your head in the ground or being an enormous idiot.

The argument doesn't deserve anymore serious consideration than someone saying 2+2=3 does.
 
I'm sorry but the statement I made fun of is ludicrous and one I argued against back in the beginning of the thread by pointing out that liberal left wigers don't love and shill reactionaries like Donald Trump and Marie Le Pen.
A liberal wouldn't call women that have been sexually assaulted and raped whores.
A liberal wouldn't support the Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory.
A liberal wouldn't talk about how Donald Trump is great because he's owning the libs.
Oh and that last one was actually said by him.
A liberal wouldn't get positive reception from a reactionary propaganda rag like Breitbart.
https://www.breitbart.com/london/20...opyright-bullying-against-hilarious-youtuber/
A liberal wouldn't enjoy getting support from someone that's a member of a racist organization like the EDL.
http://archive.is/8pDrx
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Anyone that takes more than cursory glance at who Benjamin's fans are, who he supports and the ideologies he enables will show that argument is ignorant to the point of deliberately burying your head in the ground or being an enormous idiot.

The argument doesn't deserve anymore serious consideration than someone saying 2+2=3 does.
I wasn't talking to you so why did you quote my post?
 
...Citations on your claims about Sargon himself, @Heresy. And who supports a person has no bearing on their moral character, it's purely correlation. The alt-right lot supporting him are doing it because he's anti-progressive, he'll gladly hurl shit at them. They share enemies and the far left have a lot more to cover, because neonazis are still barricaded in the hole they belong in.

Take a gander at the words of the man himself. Post #208 of this very thread, links to three separate videos of him doing a political compass test. Actually research what he says, from his own videos.
 
That doesn't stop SJWs. They'll do what they've always done. Look for a few statements and pull them out of context, or just manufacture faux-outrage when they can't find any. Then they can justify making him anathema to the Church of Social Justice.

If you try to point out the videos you mentioned above? Well "garbage human beings" don't deserve to be listened to bro. In this thread it was telling that they wouldn't even listen to a debate, the one he had with Richard Spencer, that they declared was a slam-dunk evidence of his alt-right nature. A mod had to review it and point out that bullshit.

I'm a god damn prophet.
 
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Citations on your claims about Sargon himself, @Heresy.
Which specifically? Because all that shit I said about him was true.

A liberal wouldn't call women that have been sexually assaulted and raped whores.
I think there were gold-digging whores who would accept fucking Harvey Weinstein for cash and then we're hearing from the few that either didn't or did and regret it.

Guest: You are calling allegedly raped victims "whores".

Benjamin: No, most of these are women who just were pestered by Harvey apparently.

Even though earlier in that same stream he admitted that pestering is to soft a word to describe what Harvey did.


A liberal wouldn't support the Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory.
The things that the left are fucking arguing for and fighting for are so systemically catastrophic in the long run if they were to get their way and they call themselves radicals. They call for the overthrow of capitalism. They call for communism and socialism. They call for all of this Cultural Marxist stuff, to sum it up in a phrase. You know what I'm talking about. All of this intersectional stuff that is just designed to tear apart the Western liberal tradition is coming from the left so it has to fucking stop.

A liberal wouldn't talk about how Donald Trump is great because he's owning the libs.
Fuck it, fuck it. He's my guy. He's doing what he said he'd do, and he's turning the left fucking crazy.[


All those quotes are straight from his mouth during his videos so maybe you should watch his videos more closely.

Also I don't give a fuck about his cute little political affiliation tests. His actions words, and who he ends up endearing himself too contradict that.
 
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I was explaining why I was being a dick.
Well I didn't see your post and when I did doesn't seem like your being a dick. So I was confused about being quoted and having a post about liberals and conservatives directed at me.
 
A liberal wouldn't call women that have been sexually assaulted and raped whores.
A liberal thinks a woman can do whatever she wants with her body, including using it to make money and get a career in hollywood.

A liberal wouldn't support the Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory.
Why not? This is the most arbitrary thing you said.

A liberal wouldn't talk about how Donald Trump is great because he's owning the libs.
The left =/= liberals. Nice try.
 
Then Morphile didn't say this shit?

Because you even liked that post.
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Morphile reported on the test that Sargon took and recorded on his channel. The fact is the test said he's left leaning.


People familiar with Sargon's work knows the difference between 'left' and liberal because he's expounded on it multiple times throughout his content.
He covers it here in more depth:


Liberal Principles are
  • Individualism
    Personal Liberty
    Equality of Opportunity
  • Rule of Law
  • Economic Freedom
    Free Markets
    Laissez-faire
  • Freedom of Expression
    Assembly
    Press
    Speech
    Thought
  • Political Freedom
  • Democracy
Him citing wikipedia said:


Neo-Progressivism has gone unchallenged for too long and has metastasized into an authoritarian cancer that is consuming the Left...and liberals are silent.


It's called nuance, bro.
 
Morphile reported on the test that Sargon took and recorded on his channel. The fact is the test said he's left leaning.


People familiar with Sargon's work knows the difference between 'left' and liberal because he's expounded on it multiple times throughout his content.
He covers it here in more depth:


Liberal Principles are
  • Individualism
    Personal Liberty
    Equality of Opportunity
  • Rule of Law
  • Economic Freedom
    Free Markets
    Laissez-faire
  • Freedom of Expression
    Assembly
    Press
    Speech
    Thought
  • Political Freedom
  • Democracy




It's called nuance, bro.
Right because the left comes out to shill for Trump and Marine Le Pen. :ROFLMAO:

How about instead of 'nuance' Sargon is just a lying dipshit, seems more likely to me.
 
Right because the left comes out to shill for Trump and Marine Le Pen. :ROFLMAO:

How about instead of 'nuance' Sargon is just a lying dipshit, seems more likely to me.

Not rebutting anything said about the dichotomy of left and liberalism? Concession accepted.

BTW where did you find that content about Sargon. I know you didn't listen or watch any of his videos. You obviously scraped it from somewhere. Share the goods.
 
Not rebutting anything said about the dichotomy of left and liberalism? Concession accepted.
I don't give a fuck about playing your game of semantics with regards to political definitions especially since Sargon is neither of those.

Seeing as how he supports Donald Trump that wants to pass laws that make it easier to arrest protestors, wants to destroy the free press because they don't suck his dick, made the AG a man that had a woman that laughed at his inauguration arrested and is planning to passall sorts of protectionist policies.

Then Sargon created a "petition" to remove social sciences from academia, because that inbred dipshit thought that writing a letter saying 'pleaze stahp ur hrting muh feelngs' would actually do anything, because he hates wrongthink.

So much for them free market, free thinking liberal values.

But I know that like an SK-71 in the stratosphere all of this will completely fly over your head and you'll post more videos of Carl's bullshit.
 
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I don't give a fuck about playing your game of semantics with regards to political definitions especially since Sargon is neither of those.
'Semantics' is the slogan of the ignorant.

I guess if you get your political education from John Oliver and Colbert your worldview makes sense but to people who read books it's rather limited in scope.



Seeing as how he supports Donald Trump that wants to pass laws that make it easier to arrest protestors, wants to destroy the free press because they don't suck his dick, made the AG a man that had a woman that laughed at his inauguration arrested and is planning to passall sorts of protectionist policies.

Then Sargon created a "petition" to remove social sciences from academia, because that inbred mongoloid thought that writing a letter saying 'pleaze stahp ur hrting muh feelngs' would actually do anything, because he hates wrongthink.

So much for them free market, free thinking liberal values.
Seeing how that's all state funded I don't see the free market at play here.

And with student debt eclipsing credit card debt some would see there being a real concern about the utility of those educations. You do care about the trillion dollars student debt and the people getting degrees for jobs that don't exist, don't you?

But I know that like an SK-71 in the stratosphere all of this will completely fly over your head and you'll post more videos of Carl's bullshit.
You never answered myvquestion,: where do you get all your sources from? You're not the type to do your own homework.
 
And with student debt eclipsing credit card debt some would see there being a real concern about the utility of those educations. You do care about the trillion dollars student debt and the people getting degrees for jobs that don't exist, don't you?
So sociology, economics, communications, anthropology and psychology don't have jobs in existence?

My oh my what kind of world do you live in?

Right if you want sources then here:

https://www.youtube.com/user/hbomberguy

https://www.youtube.com/user/ContraPoints

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ6o36XL0CpYb6U5dNBiXHQ

If you want more in-depth looks at why Sargon is full of shit then read this:


The quotes and time stamps are from rationalwiki, and I know they're extremely biased, but the fact of the matter is all those quotes are straight from Sargon's mouth.

Unless you're going to argue that Carl can't speak for himself and he needs someone to interpret his words for him since he's obviously incapable of communicating properly.
 
I wasn't talking to you so why did you quote my post?
you know I fucked up now I understand what you mean, I have sarcobite blocked so I didn't see that you were talking to him, and since your post was right below mine I assumed you were speaking to me. Sorry about the confusion.
 
So sociology, economics, communications, anthropology and psychology don't have jobs in existence?

My oh my what kind of world do you live in?
Except none of those things are strictly 'social justice' which is what rational wiki is stating his petition is about.

I guess I should have expected you to twist the truth about even your own sources.


Incredible. 3 YouTube channels without any timestamps, links to videos, summaries, quotes, etc. I'm going to be charitable and say you're posting everything from your phone.

If you want more in-depth looks at why Sargon is full of shit then read this:


The quotes and time stamps are from rationalwiki, and I know they're extremely biased, but the fact of the matter is all those quotes are straight from Sargon's mouth.

Unless you're going to argue that Carl can't speak for himself and he needs someone to interpret his words for him since he's obviously incapable of communicating properly.

I like how your own source doesn't even back up the nonsense you were saying in this thread.

Now while we could argue that 'Classic Liberalism' doesn't align with 'Center-left' politics, but that would be semantics
Literally lmao.

Overall that entire thing is pointing out how the guy has complex views and isn't a cookie-cutter voter that preaches the party lines. I'm sure you thought it was a scathing condemnation but to people who grapple with politics on their own, rather than just nodding to whatever platform your clique is in favor of, it's normal. Sometimes you're in favor of a candidate that you're not 100% behind, shockingly enough, because they support certain issues that are very important on your radar. Sargon for example hates islam and sharia while loving British culture. Which is why he's not voting for the multicultural progressives but rather the conservatives (and now UKIP), and isn't uncritical of either of those parties while doing it (as your own source indicates).

I'm went thru the post and looked at many of the videos they're talking about and, well,

They'll do what they've always done. Look for a few statements and pull them out of context, or just manufacture faux-outrage when they can't find any.

It's like I've seen this song and dance so many times before.
 
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Except none of those things are strictly 'social justice' which is what rational wiki is stating his petition is about.

I guess I should have expected you to twist the truth about even your own sources.



Incredible. 3 YouTube channels without any timestamps, links to videos, summaries, quotes, etc. I'm going to be charitable and say you're posting everything from your phone.


I like how your own source doesn't even back up the nonsense you were saying in this thread.


Literally lmao.

Overall that entire thing is pointing out how the guy has complex views and isn't a cookie-cutter voter that preaches the party lines. I'm sure you thought it was a scathing condemnation but to people who grapple with politics on their own, rather than just nodding to whatever platform your clique is in favor of, it's normal. Sometimes you're in favor of a candidate that you're not 100% behind, shockingly enough, because they support certain issues that are very important on your radar. Sargon for example hates islam and sharia while loving British culture. Which is why he's not voting for the multicultural progressives but rather the conservatives (and now UKIP), and isn't uncritical of either of those parties while doing it (as your own source indicates).

I'm went thru the post and looked at many of the videos they're talking about and, well,



It's like I've seen this song and dance so many times before.
Right then now question just what exactly are 'social justice courses' because there are no such fucking thing as social justice courses and every time I've asked one of Sargon's imbecilic little supporters what are those courses they always say that they're social sciences courses.

If Carl didn't want to be misinterpreted maybe he should've specified in his stupid fucking petition what he meant.

"People are complicated so therefore a man who only has some liberal positions can be a liberal even though he constantly stomps for reactionary politicians, easily goes against the values he says to hold and admits to loving reactionary politicians specifically because they piss other liberals. Oh and he took two tests to determine where he stands politically and we have to take that as word of god even though those same tests are infamous for being a load of shit."

I also love that you accuse me and all my sources of cherry picking things while you picked out only the beginning of that article and ignore the rest:

Also, for someone who identifies as a liberal, he seems all to content to admit that civil liberties and privacy from the government should be suspended for protection, which is awfully questionable considering one of the main tenants of Classical Liberalism is the protection of civil liberties. Considering that he is also supportive of some government intervention in the economy and holds these views, I would hesitate to fit him under liberalism at all, it doesn't help that he stated he would have supported the social democrat Bernie Sanders against both Trump and Hilary and has now seemingly embraced Donald Trump. I understand and respect that people can hold views which change over time, but when they repeatedly contradict and wildly vary based on the scenario, I have to be 'sceptical' about your perspective.

The only issue with all of these candidates was the potential issue of the EU in the two latter, but they still represented liberalism, albeit in slightly different ways. Sargon however, seemed to support the antithesis of what he claims to support in his support for Trump, Wilders and Le Pen. His support for Trump seemed to focus on not being corrupt as Hillary, but when faced with Wilders receiving money from foreign investors, and Le Pen's Dubious ties to Russia, he still seems to support these candidates based on them 'Focusing on the Right Issues'.

He also argues that the right would only be 'mildly oppressive for poor people', and argues that he doesn't want to improve the right, while still wanting to improve the left. Not only is this confusing, considering his support for public services which have been threatened by the 'right' (As in healthcare and some other public services of the like), but he also has at several points suggested against surveillance and any form of oppression, and despite his claims that he would "Advocate against it, whatever form of oppression they are imposing", he seems very hesitant to criticise leaders on the right who impost those laws (See points 2 and 4). Alongside this, he repeatedly mentions 'Cultural Marxism', and ignoring the very chequer history of the term, he fails to fully explain himself in most of his videos beyond saying that it will destroy "Western Values". He then goes on to mention how caring about Cultural Marxism is more important than protecting abortion rights, by saying (and I quote directly here) "Every other right is more important than your right to get an abortion". While a debate about abortion is always going to be tricky, for someone who repeatedly claims to protect western liberal values and labels themselves as 'centre-left' is quickly turned around when topics surrounding actual civil liberties.

I don't give a fuck about what Sargon fucking says he believes since like the bitch he is he'll only talk shit and not put his money where his mouth is, in regards to actual upholding or speaking out in favor of those liberal values he says he holds.

Also fuck your final point. I've watched those same videos and they specifically go out of their way to include context for Sargon's stupidity because they knew White Knights in service to the Church of His Holiness Sargon like you, would go "Fake News, Biased, Unbelievable Hit Pieces!"

And I'm glad you think Sargon is too stupid to be taken seriously seeing as how he can't be made to own up to what he says.

Also for all that you love to shit out that little quote about misinterpretating Sargon you really don't point out in any of those time stamped YouTube videos I shared how exactly he was misinterpreted.

So I'm assuming that even you aren't going to try and defend that.

Concession accepted.

Thanks for being a tool.
 
Actually archers a poor choice for female characters. You need a-lot of arm strength to draw a heavy bow effectively and its why as often as not the archers in armies were big tough guys with arms as thick as tree branches.

Spears are a good choice as they rely less on personal strength.

I did say butch female.

Right then now question just what exactly are 'social justice courses' because there are no such fucking thing as social justice courses and every time I've asked one of Sargon's imbecilic little supporters what are those courses they always say that they're social sciences courses.

Feminist studies, modern arts courses, Black studies, Cyber Feminism(real course from Cornell), Native American Feminism(not kidding, actually a thing), Queer Musicology(still a thing!), Revolutionary Marxism(Portland, is anyone surprised?), Seeing with a Native Eye(Laurentian), U.S. Race Theory & the Problem of Whiteness(Arizona).

Weren't you already warned for this shit in this very thread? Stop lying.
 
Feminist studies, modern arts courses, Black studies, Cyber Feminism(real course from Cornell), Native American Feminism(not kidding, actually a thing), Queer Musicology(still a thing!), Revolutionary Marxism(Portland, is anyone surprised?), Seeing with a Native Eye(Laurentian), U.S. Race Theory & the Problem of Whiteness(Arizona).

Weren't you already warned for this shit in this very thread? Stop lying.
Then tell your hero to be more fucking specific with what he wants gone because I hear morons say all the time that they think liberal arts degrees are all worthless not understanding that they also include shit like history and economics.

If you have a problem with how your ideological allies talk and explain things talk to them not me.
 
Then tell your hero to be more fucking specific with what he wants gone because I hear morons say all the time that they think liberal arts degrees are all worthless not understanding that they also include shit like history and economics.

If you have a problem with how your ideological allies talk and explain things talk to them not me.

Are you getting pissy because people lack the vocabulary to describe what they mean? And calling them fucking alt right as a result?

Pull your head out of your ass.
 
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