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On a Knife's Edge, a Post Weltkrieg 2 Kaiserreich Japan Game

Debate in the House of Peers

Jakarta

Cutest Mod
Moderator
Comencement of Debate within the House of Peers, 1951


With the proposal a success, it now moves from the House of Representatives to the House of Peers. Where there are significantly more noises than expected. Due to the House of Peers being a house made out of Nobles, members of the Imperial Family, and other, seemingly important members of the Japanese Populace, it seems that the battle within the House of Peers is going to be significantly harder than the House of Representatives.

You need 246 votes in your favour to pass an amendment.

Shakai Taishuto: 60% in favour of the amendment, 143 seats in favour, 95 opposes. (8 minimum to gain 100% support)

Rikken Minseito: Completely unknown, has not signaled interest or disinterest. (14 minimum to gain support)

Rikken Seiyukai: Heavy opposition, just like in the house of representatives. (18 Minimum to gain suppport)

Members of the Royal Family: indifferent, you can use 3 monarch points to gain their favour. (10 minimum to gain their support)

Members of the Imperial Academy: Split, 2 members in favour while 2 opposes. (4 Minimum to gain their support)

Independents: Unknown, would need 7 separate rolls to gain all of their support.


What will your course of action be?
 

christopher_sni

Active member
1. Shakai Taishuto: 60% in favour of the amendment, 143 seats in favour, 95 opposes. (8 minimum to gain 100% support)
2. Members of the Royal Family: indifferent, you can use 3 monarch points to gain their favour. (10 minimum to gain their support)
3.Members of the Imperial Academy: Split, 2 members in favour while 2 opposes. (4 Minimum to gain their support)
 

Eliar

Well-known member
1. Shakai Taishuto: 60% in favour of the amendment, 143 seats in favour, 95 opposes. (8 minimum to gain 100% support)
Rikken Minseito: Completely unknown, has not signaled interest or disinterest. (14 minimum to gain support)
2. Members of the Royal Family: indifferent, you can use 3 monarch points to gain their favour. (10 minimum to gain their support)
3.Members of the Imperial Academy: Split, 2 members in favour while 2 opposes. (4 Minimum to gain their support)

Do consecutive rolls, use 1 Monarch point on the members of the Royal Family.

Did not expect to have so heavy resistance from the Shakai Taishuto.

I guess party discipline is pretty lax in this Japan
 

Alias

Bean Daddy
Moderator
1. Shakai Taishuto: 60% in favour of the amendment, 143 seats in favour, 95 opposes. (8 minimum to gain 100% support)
Rikken Minseito: Completely unknown, has not signaled interest or disinterest. (14 minimum to gain support)
2. Members of the Royal Family: indifferent, you can use 3 monarch points to gain their favour. (10 minimum to gain their support)
3.Members of the Imperial Academy: Split, 2 members in favour while 2 opposes. (4 Minimum to gain their support)

Do consecutive rolls, use 1 Monarch point on the members of the Royal Family.
 

Ryser

Active member
1. Shakai Taishuto: 60% in favour of the amendment, 143 seats in favour, 95 opposes. (8 minimum to gain 100% support)
Rikken Minseito: Completely unknown, has not signaled interest or disinterest. (14 minimum to gain support)
2. Members of the Royal Family: indifferent, you can use 3 monarch points to gain their favour. (10 minimum to gain their support)
3.Members of the Imperial Academy: Split, 2 members in favour while 2 opposes. (4 Minimum to gain their support)

Do consecutive rolls, use 1 Monarch point on the members of the Royal Family.
 
House of Peers debate results.

Jakarta

Cutest Mod
Moderator
1. You successfully convinced members of the Shakai Taishuto to side with you, they might be nobles, but they are eventually socialists through and through, thankfully enough. (You rolled an 18)
2. The Rikken Minseito, unfortunately, doesn't seem to be willing to support your reforms in the House of Peers, it was a very intense negotiation, with some haggling and arguing. But their position held firm, a clear break from the Minseito in the lower house. Shigeru Yoshida might have a word with some of these party members later on. (You rolled a 13)
3. It seems that the Monarch Points are irrelevant, since the members of the Royal Family has all pledged support for your plans in the House of Peers. (You rolled a 17)
4. And the same case is true for Imperial Academy members, the 2 other who opposed the initial reforms, after seeing the Royal Family supporting it. Eventually caved in. (You rolled a 13)

In the end, you have 257 seats in total. Barely enough to pass it through the House of Peers, do you wish to do so?
 

Eliar

Well-known member
1. You successfully convinced members of the Shakai Taishuto to side with you, they might be nobles, but they are eventually socialists through and through, thankfully enough. (You rolled an 18)
2. The Rikken Minseito, unfortunately, doesn't seem to be willing to support your reforms in the House of Peers, it was a very intense negotiation, with some haggling and arguing. But their position held firm, a clear break from the Minseito in the lower house. Shigeru Yoshida might have a word with some of these party members later on. (You rolled a 13)
3. It seems that the Monarch Points are irrelevant, since the members of the Royal Family has all pledged support for your plans in the House of Peers. (You rolled a 17)
4. And the same case is true for Imperial Academy members, the 2 other who opposed the initial reforms, after seeing the Royal Family supporting it. Eventually caved in. (You rolled a 13)

In the end, you have 257 seats in total. Barely enough to pass it through the House of Peers, do you wish to do so?

[x] Consecutive rolls for the independents and Rikken Seiyukai:
-Push it through regardless of result.

2/3 is plenty enough, some additional support will be nice but there is such a thing as being kinglier than the king :p
 

Alias

Bean Daddy
Moderator
[x] Consecutive rolls for the independents and Rikken Seiyukai:
-Push it through regardless of result.
 

Ryser

Active member
[X] Consecutive rolls for the independents and Rikken Seiyukai:
-Push it through regardless of result.
 

Jakarta

Cutest Mod
Moderator
You got 2 out of the 7 Independents, while the Rikken Seiyukai, very typically, rejected all attempts to support such an extensive constitutional amendment.

But regardless, you have 259 seats within the House of Peers, and with that. The amendment completely passes, the Emperor's signature was seen only a couple minutes after the official paperwork was brought, later that night. Presses began printing the news of such a momentous occasion, and the headlines all throughout the major cities of the Empire reads 'Amendment Passes both Houses, Tetsu Katayama's Legacy is secured.'

Tetsu Katayama, the man behind all of this, the man who lead the Japanese Government throughout the 1940s, through wars, through peace, through hardships and through dividends. Is going to be remembered very fondly by the people. The Liberalizer, the reformer, some people are already calling him as the Greatest Prime Minister to ever lived, with his many accomplishments under his tenure. It isn't hard to imagine such a thing.

But yes, the amendment passes, within the august days of the Japanese summer. Japan took another step forward as a nation, empowered, reformed, but nonetheless unfinished. The various programs that Tokyo undertook is still waiting for it's results, and soon enough, the effects of the other policies will be felt.

I'll start writing on the results of your other policies and world events in 1951. All I can say is get ready for 1952, more problems are coming to Japan's way.
 
1951, Turn 3 Results

Jakarta

Cutest Mod
Moderator
Initial Healthcare Rollout a success (you rolled a 19)

The Healthcare program would be named the SHIS. Or the Statutory Healthcare Insurance Program. By all metrics, the initial promotion campaign and the coordination to both Doctors, Health Insurance Providers, and the Public has been a success, people are using the system, they’re paying their monthly dues, and although it is still a brand new system. Results are looking to be rather promising. Many Japanese are experiencing their new year checkups, and many are looking rather satisfied, although there are significant grumbles regarding the Alcohol and Tabacco surcharges.

Fire safety measures going as well as people hoped to be (you rolled a 10)

Iniitally, there are a ton of resistance from the local Japanese, especially small business owners and poor Japanese who have lived their lives within the wooden buildings. Nonetheless, eminent domain requests and continuous pressure from both civil society and government officials meant that they have to concede, and conceded they did. New buildings, made out of concrete and incorporating all the latest in building safety are being built, and the people that are temporarily evicted are moving back in. It’s unsure whether to judge this program a smashing success or not, but it’s on track at least.

Locals getting trained, although this may delay construction projects (you rolled an 8)

The various indigenous peoples living in the Pacific Island territories are being taught the way of modern construction, modern safety equipment, techniques, and procedures are being taught to them. Although, the significant cultural and workplace differences between a Solomon Islander and a Japanese are noted. And efforts to include up to 50-75% of the workforce made up of locals may have consequences yet unseen.

Most pressing though, is the delayed timetable for many infrastructure projects, just bridging the different norms of the Japanese and local islanders are already having effects on the timetable of several construction projects, much to the frustration of the managers in the field.

Refugees slowly settling into Taiwan, more people to come (you rolled an 16)

The Moroccan and Egyptian government are more than happy to let go of some 100.000 European Refugees to settle into Japanese territory, and for reasons unknown. The vast majority of them are choosing to settle into Taiwan, there is also significant pressure from the Egyptian, Moroccan and Russian governments for Japan to take in 100.000 refugees every year so that the burden of housing and feeding them won’t be too muc for them.

The locals, either Japanese or local Taiwanese on the island, are seemingly rather curious at the new arrival. Already the Europeans are settling in, setting up their new lives and trying their best to adjust to a new life within a country that, while developed, are radically different socially and culturally than their home countries. Time will tell on whether or not this will have an effect on Japanese culture.

As for Crete, although they are forced to handle in those 100.000 refugees. Things are not going well within the island. The Cretan economy is incredibly small, and barely able to keep up with the influx, only the intervention of the Japanese military and their construction projects prevented a total disaster for both the Cretans and the Refugees. It was at this point that an unlikely saviour appeared. Delegations from both the Australian and New Zealander government has agreed to take in 100.000 refugees each, for every year. Both the Presidents of Australia and New Zealand saw an opportunity of bringing in more people into their countries, and the European Refugees are jumping on the occassion. It remains to be seen if the Japanese government wants to keep bringing in Refugees or punt them to Australia and New Zealand instead.
 

Alias

Bean Daddy
Moderator
I think we should punt them too Australia and New Zealand.
 

Jakarta

Cutest Mod
Moderator
I think we should punt them too Australia and New Zealand.
Do note, before making any decision. That the Europeans are not just any typical refugees, they're mostly former industrialists, world leaders, ministers, higher middle class people. People with significant skills, and there are a lot of them that are settling into Taiwan.
 

Alias

Bean Daddy
Moderator
Do the people of Japan mind a large population of Europeans settling on Taiwan?
 
World Events, 1951

Jakarta

Cutest Mod
Moderator
1 January: Japanese Authorities have brought news towards the Middle Eastern and Russian Co-Prosperity Sphere members, Japan would be taking 100.000 refugees from their hands, and would be ordering the construction of 100.000 new housing modules in Crete, specifically meant for refugees

10 January: Ben Chifley and Peter Fraser, Presidents of both Australia and New Zealand respectively, has announced that their governments would also take in roughly 100.000 refugees for each of their countries, while reactions in New Zealand are mostly positive, with some questions about integration and assimilation, reactions from Australia is much more mixed, some of the more conservative Australians detesting the new arrivals, while others are lukewarm about the refugees

20 January: The new Kaga class carriers have fully replaced all previous generation of carriers, the Imperial Japanese Navy Design Bureau is already contemplating plans for a ‘super carrier’, a type of carrier that can carry an unprecedented amount of airplanes for various missions.

25 January: Batavian Commune author Anne de Vries releases the first volume of Journey Through the Night. It focuses on the impact of the second Weltkrieg for the Dutch population

6 February: Woodbridge Train Wreck, a Passenger train derails near Woodbridge Township, American Union State. Killing 85 and Injuring 500

19 February: Jean Lee became the last Woman hanged in Australia, she was accused and convicted of the murder and torture of a 73 year old bookmaker

2 March: The First NBA All-Star Basketball game was played in Boston Garden

4 March: The First arrivals of European refugees towards Japan. Most of them chose to reside in the island of Taiwan, much to the confusion of Japanese Authorities

6 March: First arrivals of European Refugees into Australia and New Zealand, some 5000 refugees either arrived by plane or by boat.

20 March: Nestor Makhno, Chairman of the Commune of France, has died due to Tuberculosis, an immediate election was held within the French commune.

3 April: Daniel Guérin, a leading member of the Anarchistes faction within the CGT, was elected as the new Chairman of the French Commune. He promised extending social reforms while also ‘strengthening the French military to fight the enemies of the revolution to the East.’

15 April: British Elections, factionalism within the TUC has lead to the eventual loss of the Maximist faction in the April Election. Oswald Mosley was replaced by Clement Attlee, a member of the Congregationist faction within the TUC. Mosley vowed to ‘fight tooth and nail’ against Attlee’s proposed social and economic reforms.

27 April: Representatives from Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia, Eritrea, and Somalia arrived in the city of Addis Ababa, talks would begin to create a sort of ‘Economic Community’ for the Nile River region.

1 May: A small boat was found by the Japanese coast guard off of the coast of the Kuril Islands, and on it, they found two heavily starved men and 3 heavily starved women. They were immediately taken to a nearby hospital for intensive care.

10 May: The identities of the two men were then discovered to be both King George VIII and Mackenzie King, one was the former King of Britain and the other was the former Prime Minister of Canada. The other 3 women were random refugees who joined the group in sailing towards Japan. News of their identities rapidly spread around the country.

12 May: The Government has issued them a temporary 3 year visa for each people, while the Government debates on what to do with them in the meantime.

28 May: The Goon Show was first broadcasted in the UBC Home Service within the Union of Britain, it’s first episode was titled ‘Crazy People’

30 May: The Upgrade of the three Aki Class Dreadnoughts was finally completed, the three battleships are renamed ‘Yamato’, ‘Musashi’, and ‘Aki’ respectively. The Imperial Japanese Navy plans on using these ships for shore bombardment and the testing of new anti ship weapons.

1 June: The UNIVAC 1 enters Japanese Government Service, it was built by NEC.

3 June: The Japanese Government formally creates the Ministry of Immigrant, Citizenship, and Refugee affairs. In order to better manage the influx of refugees to Japan. It would fold whatever separate agencies handling the social services for the European Refugees into a single Ministry.

10 June: The Sydney killings, an unknown assailant is murdering various refugees, but mostly Italian, German and Greek refugees in the city of Sydney, police were deployed to find out the culprit.

20 June: The Melbourne Affair. rumours about the new European refugees being ‘Criminals and Rapists’ began spreading within the city, and soon enough. The Entirety of Australia has heard of the news, investigations into the ‘Sydney Killer’ was significantly hampered by citizens willing to defend the culprit.

30 June: Ben Chifley, in an infamous address, tried to dispel rumours created by the Melbourne Affair, and much to his misfortune, the people are not having it. Cries of ‘Australia for Australians’ then became common, and the Labour government was backed into a corner.

2 July: The Canberra government announces a rollback in the refugee program, now, only 30.000 Refugees would be accepted into Australia for every year, with relatively high standards for integration.

3 July: COSCO (China Ocean Shipping Group), a worldwide shipping service, was founded in Shanghai.

13 July: The Great Flood of 1951 reached it’s highest point in Kansas, resulting in the greatest flood damage in the Midwestern Union State.

25 July: The Constitutional Convention of 1951 was held by the Japanese National Diet. Intense Discussions concerning the Japanese Constitution would be held.

10 August: The Constitutional Convention was over, after weeks of intense discussion and debate, the Japanese Government formally adopts amendments concerning integration, women’s rights, organisation of both chambers of the Diet, and the Judiciary. News about the amendments spread like wildfire all across Japan.

20 August: The long awaited ‘India Referendum’ was held in Hyderabad, after almost 6 months of campaigning to and fro, the people of Hyderabad would go to the polls to decide whether to rename the State of Hyderabad into the Kingdom of India. It resulted in 65.5% in Favour and 34.5% opposed.

25 August: The Imperial Japanese Air Force began voicing requests for further modification of the J7W2 Shinden Jet Fighter, it would have improved Avionics, Electronics, and for the first time, payloads for anti-air missiles. There are also plans to create a truly long range, jet powered Strategic Bomber, although details are relatively sparse for the time being.

3 September: The Japanese Soap Opera ‘Search for Tomorrow’ airs on NHK. It was the first ever NHK original drama series, and formally became the first ever daytime drama to air on Television, set in a small Japanese town on an unspecified date. It focuses on the lives, trials, and tribulations of the people living there.

9 September: The Treaty of Lhasa, representatives from China, India, and Tibet met within the city of Lhasa to discuss water rights, within the agreement, Tibet agreed not to build dams of any kind, while China and India would pay annual fees to the Tibetan government for such a right. Any water sold from India and China towards Tibet would also be sold at a Premium, while both China and India would agree to build dams that would not ‘unnecessarily impede’ the natural course of the river.

10 September: The Union of Britain and Commune of France announces a boycott of the entirety of the Co-Prosperity sphere, the rest of the Third Internationale quickly followed, this cooled relationships between CPS and Third Internationale Countries significantly, with CPS member states in particular decrying such acts of ‘Economic Sabotage’ for their economic development.

30 September: Charlotte Whitton became the first female Mayor of Ottawa.

3 October: The Shot Heard ‘Round the World, New York Giants’ Bobby Thomson hits a game-winning home run in the bottom of the 9th Inning off of Brooklyn Dodgers pitcher Ralph Branca. Winning a National League pennant after being down 14 games.

6 October: Both UMNO and BSRM began heating up their campaign for the upcoming Malayan General Elections, with UMNO favouring a platform of racial supremacy of the Malay Race while the BSRM, led by Yusof Bin Ishak, favouring a platform of racial equality and further social programs.

14 October: The Organisation of Central and Southern Syndicalist States was founded, The OCSSS was formed to better coordinate economic cooperation between the various Syndicalist States in Latin America, with Argentina being a leading member.

15 October: I Love Lucy began airing on CBS.

16 October: East China University was founded in Shanghai. It had it’s origins in St John’s College, founded in 1879 in the same city.

29 October: The town of Carnation, AUS, renamed itself back to Carnation. After being named Tolt since 1928.

31 October: The film Scrooge, starring Alastair Sim, began airing in theatres all across the Union of Britain.

1 November: First Military Exercises for Nuclear war, along with Infantry, was held by Japanese, Korean, Chinese, and Russian Armies in the Taigas of Russia. It included a simulated nuclear explosion, the first widespread use of contemporary NBC coverings for infantry, and first utilisation of Korean as the language of coordination between the various armies.

11 November: Juan Péron was elected as President of the Argentinian Free Territory.

20 November: The Po River floods in Northern Italy

28 November: The British film Scrooge begins airing all across the Internationale.

30 November: Construction of the National Assembly Building and an Estate for the Prime Minister of Korea has begun.

1 December: The Institute for War and Peace Studies is established by Prime Minister Tetsu Katayama at Kyushu University, Fukuoka Prefecture. It’s first director would be the first person to coin the term ‘Superpower.’

3 December: The University of Lebanon was established, part of Naziq Al Abid’s plan to educate her nation, the University was built with 80% of it’s funds originating from Japanese grants and loans.

5 December: Elections in Afghanistan. The ruling Social Democratic party was defeated by a combination of two factors, one, was the rise of the Social Conservative Party, and another one, was the rise of the Socially Liberal, Feminist Political Party, led by the former Queen of Afghanistan, Soraya Tarzi. The end result was roughly a 1/3rd majority for each party. With Soraya Tarzi being the clear winner of the Presidential election, much to the surprise of everyone. Coalition talks for the government would rapidly follow.

14 December: The Coalition for Progress was announced. A coalition government between the Social Liberals and Social Democrats of Afghanistan, with Soraya Tarzi as the President, was formally agreed upon.

17 December: We Charge Genocide. A series of essays accusing the American Union State Government for the Genocide of African Americans, during the Second American Civil War and during Peacetime, began being widely distributed all across predominantly African American Neighborhoods in America.

23 December: The African Queen, a drama starring Humphrey Bogart and Katharine Hepburn, began airing all across the American Union State.

27 December: Syndicat Fabrique Nationale, an arms company in the Wallonian Commune, began constructing a new type of Service Rifle for the Batavian and Wallonian Armies, little do these governments know of just how popular the rifle would be worldwide.
 
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Durabys

A Cheshire Exile
20 March: Nestor Makhno, Chairman of the Commune of France, has died due to Tuberculosis, an immediate election was held within the French commune.

3 April: Daniel Guérin, a leading member of the Anarchistes faction within the CGT, was elected as the new Chairman of the French Commune. He promised extending social reforms while also ‘strengthening the French military to fight the enemies of the revolution to the East.’

15 April: British Elections, factionalism within the TUC has lead to the eventual loss of the Maximist faction in the April Election. Oswald Mosley was replaced by Clement Attlee, a member of the Congregationist faction within the TUC. Mosley vowed to ‘fight tooth and nail’ against Attlee’s proposed social and economic reforms.
10 September: The Union of Britain and Commune of France announces a boycott of the entirety of the Co-Prosperity sphere, the rest of the Third Internationale quickly followed, this cooled relationships between CPS and Third Internationale Countries significantly, with CPS member states in particular decrying such acts of ‘Economic Sabotage’ for their economic development.
Hahahaha, this is darkly hilarious...CPS is so fucked. The Totalists got kicked out. And instead of too-careful-not-enough-active conservatives we have a combination of Radicals and Anarchists that want A) permanent revolution everywhere, so expect a MASSIVE increase of support for local Socialist factions in non-aligned states and Left-aligned rebels in the CPS...B) we are so dead if they pull off a UASR on us with libertine social developments, basically going with the "do as you would be done by’ (Matt. 7:12)" when it comes to maximum personal liberty that doesn't infringe on anyone else's liberty...and bruising another one's ego by one's displays of personal liberty doesn't count as an infringement on another's one's liberty, example: if a woman goes nude down a full street of people...it is cannot be counted as an infringement on the other pedestrian's liberty, some conservative folks will just feel their egos getting bruised but whatever. In short, 'What isn't forbidden outright by any laws is permitted.'. This means that if we go Women Equality...they will go Women Equality plus Permitted Polyamory. If we go SexEd to be done in schools...they will go SexEd plus LGBTQ+ rights. Radicals and Anarchists will always be able to one-up-manship us when it comes to personal liberties.

Well. At least if they even manage to realize that social libertinism is something that can work to undermine the CPS.

27 December: Syndicat Fabrique Nationale, an arms company in the Wallonian Commune, began constructing a new type of Service Rifle for the Batavian and Wallonian Armies, little do these governments know of just how popular the rifle would be worldwide.
So ITTL AK-47 Rifle.
 
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Jakarta

Cutest Mod
Moderator
...we are so fucked. The Totalists got kicked out. And instead of too-careful-not-enough-active conservatives we have a combination of Radicals and Anarchists that want A) permanent revolution everywhere, so expect a MASSIVE increase of support for local Socialist factions in non-aligned states and Left-aligned rebels in the CPS...B) we are so dead if they pull off a UASR on us with libertine social developments (basically going with the "do as you would be done by’ (Matt. 7:12)" when it comes to maximum personal liberty that doesn't infringe on anyone else's liberty...and bruising another one's ego by one's displays of personal liberty doesn't count as infringement). In short, 'What isn't forbidden outright by any laws is permitted.'. This means that if we go Woman Equality...they will go Woman Equality plus Permitted Polyamory. If we go SexEd to be done in schools...they will go SexEd plus LGBTQ+ rights. Radicals and Anarchists will always be able to one-up-manship us when it comes to personal liberties.
Don't be so pessimistic. You're assuming that there isn't any form of pushback within both Britain and France. Just because politicians promise some things doesn't mean that they can deliver it. And remember, just because a government legislates things, doesn't mean that the social norms are going to be following suit.

Don't worry, I have plans, a ton of plans for the Third Internationale. The CPS will not collapse anytime soon.
 

Jakarta

Cutest Mod
Moderator
Also, for the Americans. What do you think of this event happening?
17 December: We Charge Genocide. A series of essays accusing the American Union State Government for the Genocide of African Americans, during the Second American Civil War and during Peacetime, began being widely distributed all across predominantly African American Neighborhoods in America.
Perhaps this might be foreshadowing for things to come?
 

Durabys

A Cheshire Exile
Also, for the Americans. What do you think of this event happening?


Perhaps this might be foreshadowing for things to come?
Oh fuck. I missed that.

Uh oh.

Fuck fuck fuck...this smells of actual truth and Franco-British help with the essays. Hahaha we are gonna die now. FUCK!
@King Kūruš
We are about to lose the US to the Syndies in a Third American Civil War. We need those plans to consolidate the Middle East and Africa now!
 

King Kūruš

Active member
Calm down, Europe might have the upper hand but as long as we manage to survive long enough the economies of Asia will outsize them due to a larger population and better access to resources. Assuming the development of China would be orders of magnitude faster than OTL, by the early 70s the CPS will likely surpass the Internationale in GDP. SocDem Pan-Arabism is a thing here, right? We can secure it the Middle East by helping the Arab states unite, pumping enough money in them that they'll never fall, and making sure they have diverse non-purely oil-based economies. Much of Africa isn't that essential, and with white colonialism still in memory, most of the nations there wouldn't be too favourable to the Internationale. South Africa, the nations located on the Nile and the Niger River are the only ones that kind of matter, as iirc, Africa at this time only had a population around the size of Russia as the green revolution wasn't a thing yet. Resource exploitation in Africa would take a long time, and it's best if Japan sets it's focus elsewhere for now. A third American civil war is very unlikely, but still, anything that weakens America would not be a good thing for us. If the liberalization of the Union State happens, so be it, but we should remain ready to support it at any cost should it seem to be close to collapse.
 

Durabys

A Cheshire Exile
Calm down, Europe might have the upper hand but as long as we manage to survive long enough the economies of Asia will outsize them due to a larger population and better access to resources. Assuming the development of China would be orders of magnitude faster than OTL, by the early 70s the CPS will likely surpass the Internationale in GDP. SocDem Pan-Arabism is a thing here, right? We can secure it the Middle East by helping the Arab states unite, pumping enough money in them that they'll never fall, and making sure they have diverse non-purely oil-based economies. Much of Africa isn't that essential, and with white colonialism still in memory, most of the nations there wouldn't be too favourable to the Internationale. South Africa, the nations located on the Nile and the Niger River are the only ones that kind of matter, as iirc, Africa at this time only had a population around the size of Russia as the green revolution wasn't a thing yet. Resource exploitation in Africa would take a long time, and it's best if Japan sets it's focus elsewhere for now. A third American civil war is very unlikely, but still, anything that weakens America would not be a good thing for us. If the liberalization of the Union State happens, so be it, but we should remain ready to support it at any cost should it seem to be close to collapse.
Okay.
@Jakarta
What city houses the Headquarters of the CPS?
If it is Tokyo I have an idea how to entice the Indians and Chinese: Put the HQ into Singspore or somewhere midway between all three.
 

King Kūruš

Active member
Okay.
@Jakarta
What city houses the Headquarters of the CPS?
If it is Tokyo I have an idea how to entice the Indians and Chinese: Put the HQ into Singspore or somewhere midway between all three.
You entice China and India by repeating wha Deng Xiaoping started doing in the 1990s... create the greatest social-economic uplift of people in history and eradicate most of poverty. Japan is already well-liked by Asia in this timeline and they are quite comfortable with slowly letting China out shadow them than bother with the insane effort to keep them in a leash. Japan's interests are China's interests, and so are Korea's and India's. There is no need for us to bother setting up a new HQ for the CPS. It is a waste of time and resources. Save that for later when the CPS starts transitioning into a true Asian Union à la OTL's EU. Besides, why would we give up the historical prestige of being the founding member of the CPS?
 
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