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Mosque Shooting in New Zealand - Multiple confirmed casualties

Sure, if you like diarrhoea. Num away.
Pol is a shithole that if you understand what it is can be funny if you view it as obsurdity. But too many people get sucked in and treat it like its real. I think that's the problem they go there which is fine. But then they stay there. That's the problem. Still this whole thing is horrible.
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Pol is a shithole that if you understand what it is can be funny if you view it as obsurdity. But too many people get sucked in and treat it like its real. I think that's the problem they go there which is fine. But then they stay there. That's the problem. Still this whole thing is horrible.

I frankly think that shithol falls short to describe that deepest recess of the darkest parts of a hive of scum and villany.
 
Pol is a shithole that if you understand what it is can be funny if you view it as obsurdity. But too many people get sucked in and treat it like its real. I think that's the problem they go there which is fine. But then they stay there. That's the problem. Still this whole thing is horrible.
How about we treat it as if it's real instead? They fuck with people for real, after all.
 
I do not know how but I would suggest a group effort to map and codify as much as you can the trends, patterns and systems of Alt-Right meme warfare in a fully anaylized format to be used as a tool in identifying such content on the site.
Though I also suggest making sure to reduce false postives as much as possible so the censoring does not go too far but mainly at this point Alt-Right ideas and thoughts should be considered dangerous hazards for the mental health and possible lives of others if they rot the brain of someone. A full examination as much as could be capable of being done is needed to be a new part of site policy. Though I would also in the researching of these trends and systems be worried about someone being radicalized if exposed to these hazards and they are hazards. They are rot and poison, and they are a erosion of morality, law, ethics and all other virutes you can think of and they can corrupt.
Alt-right ideas are stupid but they aren't capable of mind control, you are attributing far too much power to the ideas.

Much better to just ridicule the ideas completely via deconstruction and mockery.
 
Alt-right ideas are stupid but they aren't capable of mind control, you are attributing far too much power to the ideas.

Much better to just ridicule the ideas completely via deconstruction and mockery.
Except for the fact that we have evidence from the face book moderation staff that constant repeated exposure to things you know are lies can in fact make you start believing it.
 
Alt-right ideas are stupid but they aren't capable of mind control, you are attributing far too much power to the ideas.

Much better to just ridicule the ideas completely via deconstruction and mockery.
It's more like they start on a rational point and go into lala land off that.

SJWs are dumb

SJW need to be fought back

SJWs are taking over

SJWs and Progressive politics are cancer

Democrat politics are cancer

Republicans have good points

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!!!!!!!
 
It's more like they start on a rational point and go into lala land off that.

SJWs are dumb

SJW need to be fought back

SJWs are taking over

SJWs and Progressive politics are cancer

Democrat politics are cancer

Republicans have good points

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!!!!!!!
A Slippery slope and Strawman combo I see.
I mean you can apply to fucking everything with that line of thought, leftism and communism included.

Not that it matters because people are going to blame everything but the man himself, despite it clearly looking like he does not give a shit and is shitposting all the way to the grave. I mean if chans,shitposting or republicans were the case, there would've been an armed uprising by now and the death count would be a lot larger and it would have happened a lot sooner.
 
A Slippery slope and Strawman combo I see.
I mean you can apply to fucking everything with that line of thought, leftism and communism included.

Not that it matters because people are going to blame everything but the man himself, despite it clearly looking like he does not give a shit and is shitposting all the way to the grave. I mean if chans,shitposting or republicans were the case, there would've been an armed uprising by now and the death count would be a lot larger and it would have happened a lot sooner.
Way to miss the point...
 
A Slippery slope and Strawman combo I see.
I mean you can apply to fucking everything with that line of thought, leftism and communism included.

Not that it matters because people are going to blame everything but the man himself, despite it clearly looking like he does not give a shit and is shitposting all the way to the grave. I mean if chans,shitposting or republicans were the case, there would've been an armed uprising by now and the death count would be a lot larger and it would have happened a lot sooner.
Can does not mean will.

One can make the argument that, yeh, maybe there is a bunch of radical communists that are being generated by a pipeline of indoctrination/radicalization.

It's not bad to acknowledge "Yeah okay, there's this particular issue with radicalistion within my/this specific camp of politics" Rather then ignore it by claiming that 'slippery slope fallacy' is at play, when slippery slop fallacy is supposed stop 'definite' arguments. "This WILL lead to this fundamentally" Not "This CAN lead to this, If Particular prerequisites are met" The former is a fallacy, and the latter is how all radicalization works.
 
Alt-right ideas are stupid but they aren't capable of mind control, you are attributing far too much power to the ideas.

Much better to just ridicule the ideas completely via deconstruction and mockery.
I am seeing the nature of a organic machine to be programmed and wired. With the right kinds of data, mental state and other conditions. We see what happens.
I mean you can apply to fucking everything with that line of thought, leftism and communism included.
But guess what?
The content of those ideas, their methods of implementation and their effect as a systematic force are vastly different. We have patterns, we have corpses and we see what Al-Right conceptual engineering of thoughts do. And it is powerful and it is a literal bloody problem.
As said Alt-Right needs a very clear, academic researched definition and means of discerning it from other things. Not just saying on gut feeling but have standards to identify it. And if you find it you rip every ounce of ability to have it be seen by others. You reduce all power to have a platform.
 
I am seeing the nature of a organic machine to be programmed and wired. With the right kinds of data, mental state and other conditions. We see what happens.

But guess what?
The content of those ideas, their methods of implementation and their effect as a systematic force are vastly different. We have patterns, we have corpses and we see what Al-Right conceptual engineering of thoughts do. And it is powerful and it is a literal bloody problem.
As said Alt-Right needs a very clear, academic researched definition and means of discerning it from other things. Not just saying on gut feeling but have standards to identify it. And if you find it you rip every ounce of ability to have it be seen by others. You reduce all power to have a platform.
You want to fix it? Ban anyone running for office if they make any anti-immigrant, racist, xenophobic, anti-gay rights, anti-minority rights, mention cultural marxism, or use Liberal, SJW, or Socialist as insults. If noone can gain political power by pandering to them, I assure you that they will be quickly smashed by politicians who no longer need them.
 
You want to fix it? Ban anyone running for office if they make any anti-immigrant, racist, xenophobic, anti-gay rights, anti-minority rights, mention cultural marxism, or use Liberal, SJW, or Socialist as insults. If noone can gain political power by pandering to them, I assure you that they will be quickly smashed by politicians who no longer need them.
Oh boy, this totally won't backfire.
 
Also this is getting off topic with political conversation. and just remembered horton doesn't want that on this. So can we take this discussion to the derail thread?
 
You want to fix it? Ban anyone running for office if they make any anti-immigrant, racist, xenophobic, anti-gay rights, anti-minority rights, mention cultural marxism, or use Liberal, SJW, or Socialist as insults. If noone can gain political power by pandering to them, I assure you that they will be quickly smashed by politicians who no longer need them.
Riiiiiiight. See, everyone? This is the kind of thing that makes rational people roll their eyes. You colonials can't do anything without going to silly extremes.
 
implementation and their effect as a systematic force are vastly different. We have patterns, we have corpses and we see what Al-Right conceptual engineering of thoughts do. And it is powerful and it is a literal bloody problem.
Freudian Slip?

And if you find it you rip every ounce of ability to have it be seen by others.
Isn't that exactly what the shooter was trying to do? Remove Al-Right?
 
You want to fix it? Ban anyone running for office if they make any anti-immigrant, racist, xenophobic, anti-gay rights, anti-minority rights, mention cultural marxism, or use Liberal, SJW, or Socialist as insults. If noone can gain political power by pandering to them, I assure you that they will be quickly smashed by politicians who no longer need them.

In short try to freeze the world at 2014 forever. The ship has kinda sailed on that front. Then there's the matter of "All Political candidates must agree 100% with me or be banned from office!" that would not last long in the legislature and would arguably do more to set progressives back than anything the far right could ever do.
 
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Ban anyone running for office if they make any anti-immigrant, racist, xenophobic, anti-gay rights, anti-minority rights, mention cultural marxism, or use Liberal, SJW, or Socialist as insults.
No.

What do you mean by "anti-immigrant", do undocumented aliens fall under this umbrella?
You colonials can't do anything without going to silly extremes.
Is there any way to protect Muslims in MENA from Radical Islamic Terrorism other than to Crusadingly Convert them? You can't have Muslim victims if there are no Muslims. ;)
 
... and people wonder why I'm heavily authoritarian anymore. This idiot is trying to (crudely) weaponize memes, using it to trigger further acts of violence... and since the relationship between fiction and reality can be surprising, I wouldn't be surprised that this would be lurking for years before it strikes again, just with far more bloodshed. He and his buddies are like the Black Hand with no one to control them. Mostly ideology, almost no sense.
 
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