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Israel's Apartheid

Morphile

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Israel could easily avoid killing civilians. They just choose not to.
They really can't, because the people actively bombing cities well within Israel's borders, and not just the settlements, are doing it from hospitals and housing districts. They surround themselves in civilians and literally make it impossible to fight back without committing war crimes. Quite on purpose, mind you.
 
They really can't, because the people actively bombing cities well within Israel's borders, and not just the settlements, are doing it from hospitals and housing districts. They surround themselves in civilians and literally make it impossible to fight back without committing war crimes. Quite on purpose, mind you.
But Israel knows that by the time they respond, the actual attackers are no longer there, so they just destroy the hospitals, schools, and houses from sheer spite instead of risking soldiers to actually hunt the attackers.
 

Vyor

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But Israel knows that by the time they respond, the actual attackers are no longer there, so they just destroy the hospitals, schools, and houses from sheer spite instead of risking soldiers to actually hunt the attackers.
Except that they clearly do kill the attackers and collapse their tunnels. The attacks stop for quite some time after the retaliation strikes after all.
 
Except that they clearly do kill the attackers and collapse their tunnels. The attacks stop for quite some time after the retaliation strikes after all.
That’s because the retaliation is the goal. They want Israel to look bad internationally and to enrage the Palestinians so they keep supporting Hamas. And Israel keeps doing it with all the idiocy of the southern cops abusing civil rights workers on camera in the 60s.
 

Baron Steakpuncher

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That’s because the retaliation is the goal. They want Israel to look bad internationally and to enrage the Palestinians so they keep supporting Hamas. And Israel keeps doing it with all the idiocy of the southern cops abusing civil rights workers on camera in the 60s.
They can't exactly not retaliate against the people launching rockets at their cities though.
 
They can't exactly not retaliate against the people launching rockets at their cities though.
I’m not saying they shouldn’t. But attacking where the enemy used to be isn’t effective. Airstrikes are not going to work. If they want to respond and have it actually matter they are going to have to send actual soldiers in and track down the Hamas leaders.
 
At this point, they’ve acted like twats for too long to have any good options. If Israel had actually put work into PR other than with the US far right, they might have enough friends to not get excoriated in the press regardless of their actions. They depended entirely on America, and when an American president so much as criticized them, they threw in completely with the other party, thus sabotaging themselves in the future. They’ve fucked up. They have no friends. Even the diaspora Jews are turning against Israel.
 

beast_regards

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And I guess Czechoslovakia was an apartheid state as well due to the benes decrees. That statement is just like goring or hitler saying "our only crime was being honest!"
Actually, it prevented it. Benes' Decrees actually forced Sudetenland Germans to leave the country (and they wanted "zurück zum Reich" anyway, so they went) and they were subsequently compensated by the German government for doing so.
 

Celene

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That’s because the retaliation is the goal. They want Israel to look bad internationally and to enrage the Palestinians so they keep supporting Hamas. And Israel keeps doing it with all the idiocy of the southern cops abusing civil rights workers on camera in the 60s.
It really isn't. The actions of Hamas have made waves when it comes to turning the planet against the Palestinian people. Even Progressive demographics are beginning to turn against them, and this is in spite of Israel doubling down on it's overly conservative and regressive rhetoric.

It's literally doing the exact opposite of what you're saying, and it will keep doing it, because the populace's of the world are smart enough to judge the people who launch the rockets in the first place rather then the ones who retaliate.
 
It really isn't. The actions of Hamas have made waves when it comes to turning the planet against the Palestinian people. Even Progressive demographics are beginning to turn against them, and this is in spite of Israel doubling down on it's overly conservative and regressive rhetoric.

It's literally doing the exact opposite of what you're saying, and it will keep doing it, because the populace's of the world are smart enough to judge the people who launch the rockets in the first place rather then the ones who retaliate.
Israel’s popularity on the left is lower than it’s ever been. The majority of American Jews do not support their policies. BDS is increasingly getting support. People don’t like Hamas, but Israel not helping themselves.
 
It really isn't. The actions of Hamas have made waves when it comes to turning the planet against the Palestinian people. Even Progressive demographics are beginning to turn against them, and this is in spite of Israel doubling down on it's overly conservative and regressive rhetoric.

It's literally doing the exact opposite of what you're saying, and it will keep doing it, because the populace's of the world are smart enough to judge the people who launch the rockets in the first place rather then the ones who retaliate.
Not really. Many in the left are turning against Israel. Most Jews are also at the very least more uneasy about supporting Israel.

Israel started the situation by offering unfair deals and in the 40s they expelled the Palestinians by burning villages, murdering innocents and then threatening a repeat. While idiots like Chuck Schumer prefer to pretend otherwise most young people realize that the Israelis started this.

Hamas are assholes but if anything Likud is barely different (most of likud’s elite wouldn’t have a problem with mass genocide)
 

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