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Israel's Apartheid

Lord Inquisitor Adornable

The Community Outreach Mod
Well, talk to the “outreach” moderator, since that was me quoting him. Makes you wonder who they want to reach out to sometimes...
Well you obviously, I was giving you advice on how to get Morphile banned afterall.

You're attemps to slander Horton and myself by baselessly accusing us of tolerating genocide advocacy when it's plainly visible in this very threat that we do not has only served to lower my respect for you Ravan.
 

Ravan

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Well you obviously, I was giving you advice on how to get Morphile banned afterall.

You're attemps to slander Horton and myself by baselessly accusing us of tolerating genocide advocacy when it's plainly visible in this very threat that we do not has only served to lower my respect for you Ravan.
You say that while saying that genocide advocacy is tolerated in when applied to the palestinians and that rape advocacy is tolerated when applied to anti-capitalists. The fact that Morphile ISN’T banned for that suggests that the mods agree with him, because that sure as hell wouldn’t be tolerared if it was me calling for the rape and murder of Trump supporters or the “cultural genocide” of Evangelical Christians.
 

Lord Inquisitor Adornable

The Community Outreach Mod
You say that while saying that genocide advocacy is tolerated in when applied to the palestinians
I never said that.


that rape advocacy is tolerated when applied to anti-capitalists.
Morphile has repeatedly said he believes rape dogs are preferable to socialist governments not that he wants communists raped, and when he went on to say HE would of imprisoned the innocent family members of socialists he was infracted.


The fact that Morphile ISN’T banned for that suggests that the mods agree with him
By that same logic I must also agree with you because you're not banned.


because that sure as hell wouldn’t be tolerared if it was me calling for the rape and murder of Trump supporters or the “cultural genocide” of Evangelical Christians.
Morphile wasn't calling for the rape and murder of anyone, you're perfectly free to say hypothetical Clinton rape dogs are preferable to a trump presidency and call for the cultural genocide of evangelicals all you want.
 

Morphile

Well-known member
Really. Genocide advocacy is never acceptable and that’s what morphile advocated.
Given that I remain uninfracted for my view on Palestine, forced removal of major cultural characteristics, provided that mass killings are not expected to be a benefit to the process, are permitted on this site. Because that's what cultural "genocide" is, forcing a culture to become what most would consider a different one, mostly due to a fundamental change in value system to prune stuff responsible for, in this case, extensive terrorist sympathy (pretty sure I offered a citation showing two-thirds or so of Palestine are supportive of actual violent attacks) or other beliefs that directly lead to outright harm of others.
 
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Baron Steakpuncher

Proletarian Puncher of Steaks
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Given that I remain uninfracted for my view on Palestine, forced removal of major cultural characteristics, provided that mass killings are not expected to be a benefit to the process, are permitted on this site. Because that's what cultural "genocide" is, forcing a culture to become what most would consider a different one, mostly due to a fundamental change in value system to prune stuff responsible for, in this case, extensive terrorist sympathy (pretty sure I offered a citation showing two-thirds or so of Palestine are supportive of actual violent attacks) or other beliefs that directly lead to outright harm of others.
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Huh. Usually people arent so self aware of what their beliefs qualify as.

Not sure if that makes it better or worse.
 

Aaron Fox

SB's Minor Junker Descendant and Hunter of Nazis
Author
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Huh. Usually people arent so self aware of what their beliefs qualify as.

Not sure if that makes it better or worse.
In some cases, we're left with only bad and worse options... and sadly enough Morphile isn't exactly wrong about the situation on the situation in Palestine. We're in a situation where the only options after the nukes didn't cause the sane leaders (and the Emperor) of Imperial Japan to put the breaks on the Militarists' suicide train and force only two other options for the Allies: Operation Downfall (still the king of all clusterfuck of clusterfucks in military history) and Operation Starvation (remember the Siege of Leningrad and the old pre-gunpowder sieges where the population within was purposely starved out? This is one done on a national scale).
 

Ravan

Gone
Time to dig this one out again, as the US Senate has voted to declare that boycotting Israel, Divesting one’s company of Israeli holdings, or calling for sanctions on Israel is not protected speech and may be punished by state, local and the federal government at their option.
 

Sarcobite

THE DONALD TRUMP PROTECTS!!!!!
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Time to dig this one out again, as the US Senate has voted to declare that boycotting Israel, Divesting one’s company of Israeli holdings, or calling for sanctions on Israel is not protected speech and may be punished by state, local and the federal government at their option.
Good. To act aganist the intrests of our close ally israel is HERESY.
 

Aaron Fox

SB's Minor Junker Descendant and Hunter of Nazis
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Time to dig this one out again, as the US Senate has voted to declare that boycotting Israel, Divesting one’s company of Israeli holdings, or calling for sanctions on Israel is not protected speech and may be punished by state, local and the federal government at their option.
That... is oddly specific. Then again, given some of the bullshit that surrounds this entire affair thanks to the PLO/Hamas/Palestinian leadership's propaganda machine that has only started to be show cracks...
 

Aaron Fox

SB's Minor Junker Descendant and Hunter of Nazis
Author
At this point it’s an abusive relationship. Netanyahu abuses it and Israel’s own policies breed chaos.
Yeah, not exactly. Israel's policies is heavily due to 1) the Palestinians and their leadership being bad actors in this entire affair (the last few times that Israel pulled out and abide by agreements, they had to come back in again because Palestine/Palestinians simply break the agreements) with the fact that until the last decade or so everyone around them (and, to be frank, the only reason that Egypt and Israel are playing nice is because the US is spending oodles of money and material quite literally bribing them so Suez won't be shutdown by conflict again), and 2) Israeli politics makes British politics look like something digestible and easy to figure out (a few Israeli SBers pointed this out numerous times and to put it simply, Israel's internal politics is a fucking mess to put it nicely).

As long as the Palestinians continue to be bad actors, the local version of The Troubles will continue until one of several options happens:
  1. Palestine overthrows everyone of their current leadership and tells the oil shieks where to stuff it (this option is the least likely to work given the history involved)
  2. Israel moves in and forces compliance via something akin to the denazification program implemented in West Germany (or outright do cultural genocide as @Morphile sadly suggested, this is a very probable option)
  3. The Palestinians go full Ketsugō and basically run into the guns of Israel and we get a look at what would happen if Operation Downfall was implemented in WW2 (very probable given the situation)...
  4. The Palestinians genocide the Israelis (unlikely but given the fact that Israel would be in a bind if the Palestinians start a genocide geopolitically...)
 

Anonasaurus Rex

Well-known member
Yup this is why I think Israel is a giant bloated tick on America's scrot sack. We shovel all the money to them for what? Its bullshit, and if you criticize it you are antisemetic. Like a Jewish person gets up in the middle of the night to pee, stubs his toe on the nightstand and then next day there's an article in the New York Times about Antisemetism in the furniture industry. Fuck.
 

IndyFront

Superorganism
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Like an Israeli person gets up in the middle of the night to pee, stubs his toe on the nightstand and then next day there's an article in the New York Times about Antisemetism in the furniture industry. Fuck.
FTFY
 

LordYam193

Active member
Yup this is why I think Israel is a giant bloated tick on America's scrot sack. We shovel all the money to them for what? Its bullshit, and if you criticize it you are antisemetic. Like a Jewish person gets up in the middle of the night to pee, stubs his toe on the nightstand and then next day there's an article in the New York Times about Antisemetism in the furniture industry. Fuck.
Hint saying “the Jews” is as bad as saying all Palestinians are violent monsters.
 

Baron Steakpuncher

Proletarian Puncher of Steaks
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Despite some people I've seen acting like Israel needs American support, It kinda doesn't. It has Nukes, and one of the best forces in the middle east. Only Pakistan or the Saudi's could really fight against them on even ground and they won't for easily understood reasons.

(That said, the US contributions are only like 2% of military funding to my understanding.)
 

Ravan

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Ravan

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Despite some people I've seen acting like Israel needs American support, It kinda doesn't. It has Nukes, and one of the best forces in the middle east. Only Pakistan or the Saudi's could really fight against them on even ground and they won't for easily understood reasons.

(That said, the US contributions are only like 2% of military funding to my understanding.)
Israel needs US support because otherwise the various other nations they’ve pissed off would be imposing North Korea level economic sanctions until Israel submits to UN authority.
 

Aaron Fox

SB's Minor Junker Descendant and Hunter of Nazis
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And that would be such a tragedy
It would because that would cause far more trouble than it's worth. This nation is properly paranoid about it's neighbors, as they've already tried four times to carry out a war of genocide and this is on top of Jewish history in general. Given that Israel's nuclear policy is at least 'from the pits of hell, I stab at thee' levels of spite (likely countervalue instead of counterforce) with a possible and very Russian 'fuck you too' policy with Europe...

... yeah, the US supports Israel more than just because it's Israel. It basically bribes/forces Israel to not cause a nuclear shitstorm. The biggest reason that Suez is still operational is because the US is bribing Israel and Egypt with not-so-insignificant-sums so they don't fight each other. Hell, the Palestinians have been pawns for the rest of the Middle East for decades and will continue to do so because the rest of the Middle East doesn't want to become radioactive cinders because the Israelis weren't bluffing.
Israel needs US support because otherwise the various other nations they’ve pissed off would be imposing North Korea level economic sanctions until Israel submits to UN authority.
No, most of the nations that would try to kill Israel hate it by simply fucking existing. Israel's history is basically 'everyone hates the nation with a fury of at least a thousand suns just because it exists' after Palestine was partitioned by the UN during the aftermath of WW2 and the Soviets and Americans not wanting the entire 'Jew cycle' to happen all over again.
If i'm honest there are more deserving targets in the middle east.
Israel, in the grand scheme of things, is the least deserving target out of the lot.
 

Aaron Fox

SB's Minor Junker Descendant and Hunter of Nazis
Author
No that would probably be Jordan in the scheme of things. Israel ranks below Jordan, the Kurds and Kuwait, but above UAE, Lebanon, Turkey and Egypt.
No, Jordan was more or less complicit until Black September... so they would be just below the Kurds and Kuwait.
 

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