The effort is adequate.try harder
So is fascism really that bad? Given that communism has killed millions too and communism is a "acceptable" political stance nowadays, can we say that fascism should be normalized?
He might go full out nazi then and then I'd have to ban him.Sarcobite you need new material
Hans, are we the baddies?He might go full out nazi then and then I'd have to ban him.
Yes comrade Kragan, Stalin's explicit orders to massacre the kulaks, to commit the Holodomor, and execute order 00447 were all just bugs in the system needing to be patched like a Bethesda game.Fascism is bad. Communism killed millions due to poorly implemented/thought out policy. Fascism killed millions due to properly implemented policy. One is a bug, the other is a feature.
Yes comrade Kragan, Stalin's explicit orders to massacre the kulaks, to commit the Holodomor, and execute order 00447 were all just bugs in the system needing to be patched like a Bethesda game.
Are you really going to sit there and try to defend Stalin?Explicit orders?
You have the sources on stalin personally and explicitly ordering those things, yes?
https://history.hanover.edu/courses/excerpts/111stalin.htmlExplicit orders?
You have the sources on stalin personally and explicitly ordering those things, yes?
Are you really going to sit there and try to defend Stalin?
The Holodomor's status as an intentional genocide has been argued over in Ukrainian Courts and judges have rules that given the evidence provide, that yes Holodomor was an intentional act by the Stalin lead Bolshevik regime, and that Stalin as an autocrat would of defently given orders at one point or another.As far as my historical research goes, at least with holodomor, Ukrainian authorities had a large amount of leeway, to the point of lying to stalin and doing their own thing.
The statement "he explicitly ordered it" is a very strong one, and if you can't support it dont try and defend it by acting outraged
Explicitly ordered is a strong statement that I really don't care about. If a genocide happens under a government, then that government either approved of it for whatever reason or the system was so fucking broken that we shouldn't ever try to emulate it. Either way, Stalin is one of the most degenerate pieces of shit in history and I'm always confused when Stalin apologist come out of the woodworks. It's like defending Hitler.As far as my historical research goes, at least with holodomor, Ukrainian authorities had a large amount of leeway, to the point of lying to stalin and doing their own thing.
The statement "he explicitly ordered it" is a very strong one, and if you can't support it dont try and defend it by acting outraged
Yes comrade Kragan, Stalin's explicit orders to massacre the kulaks, to commit the Holodomor, and execute order 00447 were all just bugs in the system needing to be patched like a Bethesda game.
yes Holodomor was an intentional act by the Stalin lead Bolshevik regime, and that Stalin as an autocrat would of defently given orders at one point or another.
Explicitly ordered is a strong statement that I really don't care about. If a genocide happens under a government, then that government either approved of it for whatever reason or the system was so fucking broken that we shouldn't ever try to emulate it.
Stalin was Autocratic ruler of the Soviet Union his stamp of approval was needed for everything and it's well known he had prejudice views of the ethnic Ukrainians.Well, sure, but soviet records have been released, and "explicitly ordering" is far different than what you're saying here
Stalin was Autocratic ruler of the Soviet Union his stamp of approval was needed for everything and it's well known he had prejudice views of the ethnic Ukrainians.
Also why are we trusting the famously well doctored Soviet Records anyway?