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Growing Horizons: Inner Sphere - Quest

The latest generation of KKVs have hyperwave transceivers that can allow them to be depolyed and remotely targeted and fired? I move we call them Interstellar Kinetic Kill Vehicles. If we come up with a nuclear tipped version with Casaba Warheads, I propose we call them Interstellar Nuclear Kill Vehicles.
Quite possible on the Hyperwave transceivers, but any nuclear warhead for a KKV is redundant as high percentages of lightspeed are more powerful than any nuke.
 
Quite possible on the Hyperwave transceivers, but any nuclear warhead for a KKV is redundant as high percentages of lightspeed are more powerful than any nuke.
If we could i would add some antimatter to the kkv just to be a dick and see what would happen. I mean yeah the kkv by itself should be sufficient but think of the explosions and the science!
I have mostly recovered from Turkey Day and have decided to reply to developments.
Philip i think probable never existed and might just be the latest in a series of ID's to fool the people but frankly we might never know if and unless we can seize their primary databanks or people intact. The "defense fleet" as Warringer said is a routine every two year thing sent to their deaths for reasons unknown beyond being able to point to their deaths to keep the people focused and drum up recruitment. If their tech is more advanced it does not seem noteworthy because we have got to skim a debris field already for data and the only thing of apparent interest was the data cores. Could look into it though.

But like said we need to deal with clans fast then see to reducing or killing the hegemon fast because if the defrost those yards of ships and people we could have a very serious fight on your hands. If we can get the Algereon to help it should go even better. The AI should be amiable. If we can get ridf of the hegemony threat they can get back to doing their duties and not stretching rules dealing with unforeseen problems they dont have orders for.
 
We need to finish with the clans quickly and reorient to the hegemony because i dont know what the fuck is going on there but if they have spent centuries steadily building up forces we could have real fucking problem if they start defrosting and throwing them at problems.
And yet they keep throwing out one-third of their total production at Algareon in some War-is-Peace Orwellian scheme, and the remaining two-thirds are doing what exactly? They could've tried to reconquer IS already, and probably successfully as their production seems to be greater than one of the successor states, yet they never did despite it was a whole point of Cameron's plan. This doesn't make much sense unless they are waging war on multiple fronts and that's where the rest of the resources go to. However, if there is another threat, why they (the threat, the hamsters) didn't approach IS yet? Even if they couldn't conquer it, something would pass through. If evil not-Chua hamsters want to wipe out humanity, they don't need to fight on IS terms
 
[X] Random Research: Better Metamaterials

[X] Space Mining IV:

Should the Evacuation force swing by Tanis to immediately begin a Trial of Possession for the place?
[X] No
 
And yet they keep throwing out one-third of their total production at Algareon in some War-is-Peace Orwellian scheme, and the remaining two-thirds are doing what exactly? They could've tried to reconquer IS already, and probably successfully as their production seems to be greater than one of the successor states, yet they never did despite it was a whole point of Cameron's plan. This doesn't make much sense unless they are waging war on multiple fronts and that's where the rest of the resources go to. However, if there is another threat, why they (the threat, the hamsters) didn't approach IS yet? Even if they couldn't conquer it, something would pass through. If evil not-Chua hamsters want to wipe out humanity, they don't need to fight on IS terms
Thats what really scares me about this. Depending on how long they have been going they should have hit enough production to over run the IS by the end of the 3rd succession war easy and just take their time conquering lesser worlds after nuking or seizing the few remaining ones that matter between the houses. They probable should have enough to take or destroy Algaeron but they do not. If they are fighting some brutal war why do they place most production and crews into storage? Why are they stockpiling such a force and what could they possible be building toward they could not fight with what they got now?
 
That's what really scares me about this. Depending on how long they have been going they should have hit enough production to over run the IS by the end of the 3rd succession war easy and just take their time conquering lesser worlds after nuking or seizing the few remaining ones that matter between the houses. They probable should have enough to take or destroy Algaeron but they do not. If they are fighting some brutal war why do they place most production and crews into storage? Why are they stockpiling such a force and what could they possible be building toward they could not fight with what they got now?

Hell, if The Terran Hegemony had agents inside Comstar and the other Great Houses, why haven't they used their abilities to cause more chaos so that the Hegemony could take over?
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My earlier suggestion about the Hegemony being controlled by an AI that exploited emergency protocols to seize absolute power and which sends out the periodic strike waves in a deliberately handicapped war effort to perpetuate the "crisis" that enables it to exercise emergency protocols to maintain control doesn't sound crazy.

Monstrous, yes, but not crazy.
 
Monstrous, yes, but not crazy.
It frankly one of the more rational theories given again by the third war with what we seen they should have been able to just walk in and win. Use targeted viruses to wipe out the houses save for puppet leaders, which could be fakes anyway, and use their forces to rush and seize or destroy vital worlds whle the houses collapse and are simple to exhausted and fucked up to even try to fight back. The Hegemony could have won right there.
 
It frankly one of the more rational theories given again by the third war with what we seen they should have been able to just walk in and win. Use targeted viruses to wipe out the houses save for puppet leaders, which could be fakes anyway, and use their forces to rush and seize or destroy vital worlds while the houses collapse and are simple to exhausted and fucked up to even try to fight back. The Hegemony could have won right there.
They don't even need to do something that complicated. Just target every jumpship not under Terran control and then only let trusted pawns run their Terran-licensed replacements.
 
They don't even need to do something that complicated. Just target every jumpship not under Terran control and then only let trusted pawns run their Terran-licensed replacements.
Conquest 101 when no one can build proper warships but you anymore and barely any ftl craft at all. And yet they do not preferring spy games. Hell they can capture most all of them pretty easy as well.
 
[X] Random Research: Better Metamaterials

[X] Space Mining IV:

Should the Evacuation force swing by Tanis to immediately begin a Trial of Possession for the place?
[X] No
 
Hell, the way it's storing both the ship and crew in what I'm going to assume is operational readiness, combined with the sheer endurance Battletech stuff has in regards to age, not called Ragnarok-proof for nothing, makes me think that. Well, the New Terran Hegemony is building up a fleet able to actually fight the 'xeno-hamsters' when they turn their attention our way. They're just doing so in a monstrous fashion, with the endlessly perpetuated war against Algareon being used to excuse the endless wartime production rate and conditions, and also hide the fact they're only truly losing a third of their production and personnel.
 
But we know from the robot we rescued that at one point the sldf was fighting with a alien coalition to stop the hamsters. And we know idea what happened to them either.

Edit: Which also begs question did we get accurate data from the robot?
 
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Hell, the way it's storing both the ship and crew in what I'm going to assume is operational readiness, combined with the sheer endurance Battletech stuff has in regards to age, not called Ragnarok-proof for nothing, makes me think that. Well, the New Terran Hegemony is building up a fleet able to actually fight the 'xeno-hamsters' when they turn their attention our way. They're just doing so in a monstrous fashion, with the endlessly perpetuated war against Algareon being used to excuse the endless wartime production rate and conditions, and also hide the fact they're only truly losing a third of their production and personnel.
Okay, I have another question. When the expedition salvaged those wrecked Hegemony ships, did they find any organic remains onboard? Because I wonder if it's possible that all the Terran Ships are actually Caspars in disguise, and they can switch to operating at speeds that would kill an organic crew both as a means of making sure they can't defect and surprising the enemy suddenly.
 
Thats what really scares me about this. Depending on how long they have been going they should have hit enough production to over run the IS by the end of the 3rd succession war easy and just take their time conquering lesser worlds after nuking or seizing the few remaining ones that matter between the houses. They probable should have enough to take or destroy Algaeron but they do not. If they are fighting some brutal war why do they place most production and crews into storage? Why are they stockpiling such a force and what could they possible be building toward they could not fight with what they got now?
The situation once again doesn't make any sense, unless they have another enemy which is equally crippled and passive as Algaeron, thus unable and unwilling to go on a massive offensive. And it doesn't matter if that offensive is against IS, Clans, or Hegemony. Unless Hegemony is limited in the same way as Algaeron, they are also ruled by the equally crippled AI, probably up jumped Caspar, that doesn't really know what it is doing and is just maintaining a status quo along with build-up quotas without any plan to do anything with it, waiting for its creators to return and provide further instruction. Currently, it is doubtful that Space Hamsters are real. They would virus bomb the IS even if Hegemony isn't going to. And if they are contained, how exactly contained they are, with the Hegemony approach?

@Warringer
Can we somehow study the phenomenon that brought us to this universe? It was totally an out of context problem so we might not even have an idea or records.
 
@Warringer
Can we somehow study the phenomenon that brought us to this universe? It was totally an out of context problem so we might not even have an idea or records.
What phenomenon? There was nothing that showed us suddenly going to the IS. Absolutely nothing really changed in any way, aside from the universe outside of the 30 lightyears zone of the Three Systems. There are no records, nor any idea what exactly happened.

No one knew anything had happened until those mercs showed up.
 
Honestly we just need to stay the course and keep letting intel flow in. There are just to many unknowns but one do we do know is the hegemony is a threat to all and must be taken down. We deal with the clans so they cant fuck shit up while we deal with real threats then we rotate to deal with the hegemony. Hopefully by then we have hard data on every yard and stockpile and cryo bay for shooting and hopefully find out if they know anything about the hamsters or other threats and we see if we can knock them down and quarantine their worlds then we can see about keeping them quarantined or taking them one by one.
 
Honestly we just need to stay the course and keep letting intel flow in. There are just to many unknowns but one do we do know is the hegemony is a threat to all and must be taken down. We deal with the clans so they cant fuck shit up while we deal with real threats then we rotate to deal with the hegemony. Hopefully by then we have hard data on every yard and stockpile and cryo bay for shooting and hopefully find out if they know anything about the hamsters or other threats and we see if we can knock them down and quarantine their worlds then we can see about keeping them quarantined or taking them one by one.
I agree, there are too many holes about the Hegemony. If we use Interstellar KKVs to wreck the fleet like we did Comstar's, what will be the response? Will the Hegemony's rulers actually take off the kid gloves or will they continue on with their current actions? Even if the capabilities of Algareon would be a massive boost to help the Hegemony reconquer the IS, why haven't they done it with the forces they have?

When did Thomas Marik get crippled and become the Master of the WOB?

[X] Space Mining IV:

[X] Search for more Tesseracts:

Should the Evacuation force swing by Tanis to immediately begin a Trial of Possession for the place?
[X] Mayhaps
 
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IIRC Thomas is dead in this scenario. He was confirmed dead. And it keeps leading back to not enough data but we must strike and pray what we have is enough. You sure you want to search more tessearcts right now? What we have right now suits are needs and we will want time to deal with other problems before going looking for more.
 
And it keeps leading back to not enough data but we must strike and pray what we have is enough
Yeah, that's a kick in the Teeth. The War with the Hegemony is going to be a marathon, not a sprint like what happened with the Circinus federation or Marian Hegemony. This is not going to be easy by any stretch of the definition.
 
Yeah, that's a kick in the Teeth. The War with the Hegemony is going to be a marathon, not a sprint like what happened with the Circinus federation or Marian Hegemony. This is not going to be easy by any stretch of the definition.
Circinus and Marian were not wars. Both "nations" were barely functional totalitarian dictatorships that survived by piracy with functionally little home industry or culture beyond crap appropriated in the Marians case. We just had to walk in with sufficient forces and they fell apart. The clans themselves if they came down to it would not be much of a war i think with all their ability to fight front loaded so once we beat their fleets and start crushing armies they would themselves fall apart as the die hards kamikaze and the rest simply follow clan philosophy and roll over for us and consider themselves part of us now. Their threat is in being a pointless lengthy and draining distraction if they try a invasion while we try to fight the Hegemony. The hegemony? That i am unsure off. If we blitz them with what we have right now we should be able to crush their defensive fleets and then its just a matter of dealing with their probable fortress worlds. If they can start awakening and moving out their stored fleets then it turns into a true war that probable end with massive casualties for all involved. The IS itself would probable get hammered to hell and back as well.
 
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Circinus and Marian were not wars. Both "nations" were barely functional totalitarian dictatorships that survived by piracy with functionally little home industry or culture beyond crap appropriated in the Marians case. We just had to walk in with sufficient forces and they fell apart. The clans themselves if they came down to it would not be much of a war i think with all their ability to fight front loaded so once we beat their fleets and start crushing armies they would themselves fall apart as the die hards kamikaze and the rest simply follow clan philosophy and roll over for us and consider themselves part of us now. Their threat is in being a pointless lengthy and draining distraction if they try a invasion while we try to fight the Hegemony. The hegemony? That i am unsure off. If we blitz them with what we have right now we should be able to crush their defensive fleets and then its just a matter of dealing with their probable fortress worlds. If they can start awakening and moving out their stored fleets then it turns into a true war that probable end with massive casualties for all involved. The IS itself would probable get hammered to hell and back as well.
Here's a nightmare scenario: what happens if the Hegemony captures one of the Von Neuman ships?

Though we can't be sure that the Hegemony wouldn't use its Catspaws in the Clans as a distraction or cause havoc like they did in the IS.
 
Here's a nightmare scenario: what happens if the Hegemony captures one of the Von Neuman ships?

Though we can't be sure that the Hegemony wouldn't use its Catspaws in the Clans as a distraction or cause havoc like they did in the IS.
Hopefully those have redundant self destructs given the dangers... But well if the hegemony was going to do anything they probable will soon in the next 4 to 8 turns. We have cut them off from their spies and rooting them out and dealing eith the clans. They have to know we will be coming for them and pulling from the stockpile and going total war is their only solution at this point. But can they pull from te stockpile or are they stuck in a situation similar to the Alg AI?
 
What phenomenon? There was nothing that showed us suddenly going to the IS. Absolutely nothing really changed in any way, aside from the universe outside of the 30 lightyears zone of the Three Systems. There are no records, nor any idea what exactly happened.

No one knew anything had happened until those mercs showed up.
It's a phenomenon, obviously, and it happened more than once as far we know, we can't just explain how or why. But the event demonstrably happened.
 
It's a phenomenon, obviously, and it happened more than once as far we know, we can't just explain how or why. But the event demonstrably happened.
And we have no data on any kind of wave form event or actually interaction beyond suddenly the star change and we get a visitor from outside in the form of the mercs who now enjoy very cushy easy jobs. Or was it just the jumpship arrival?
 
There is nothing we have been aboe to observe in any way shape or form about the event. We don't even know when it did happen.
 
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