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General isekai & ISOT discussion and resource thread

Hmm... ok. first of all, the alchemist. How does their power work? Do they get automatic knowledge of what they're making? Because being able to create complex compounds or transmute shit is pretty useful. Frankly speaking, utility mostly trumps most other things. Your mages, Infernals, Alchemists, Supermen....

Frankly, they're all useful. But most of the advantage is to the Infernal/ Mage/ Alchemist. What with the potions and all.
 
*Thinks* Well, obviously they're going to take over in short time. What else, after that. Do they work together?

Anyway, thinking back on my own world, I'm having an idea. Like, say, how primitive should I make them? I have an idea where the very concept of a large, multi-storyed stone house with running water and a working lift be considered something magical and sorcerous to them? There's words about lower bars, but on the other hand, the sudden culture shock can be quite nice.
 
Note that pre-agriculture society can be pretty sophisticated, as seen with the builders of Göbekli Tepe and the Pacific Northwest Natives.
Hmm.... True.

Then I shall make it fancy!

With gold and marble and silver and all that pretty stuff. There'll be flying buttresses and coloured glass with frescoes. There will be an elevator and escalators. There will be water being piped in and out. There will be mechanical golems serving as servants. There will be meat every day.
 
So... that would be Neolithic Revolution tech if they just figured out agriculture. You seem to be going for people still in the stone age and haven't figured out metal working yet. Honestly just about anything you could make past this tech level is going to impress them. You show them a mundane weapon or tool made of a strange material they've never seen before like iron or bronze they're going to think you're a wizard or something.

Distill alcohol and show them what looks like to them a water with a biting odor that can be ignited and they'll think it's magic. You could construct stuff like primitive gliding technology with the right materials. Nothing says "I'm a wizard" like the power of flight. Set up a water wheel attached to a magnet so it spins next to some copper wrapped iron and you just invented an electric generator. And speaking of magnets just showing them how to use magnets to make compasses for navigation would seriously be useful and impressive if this setting is one where the planet has a magnetic field.

At the Neolithic level these people might not even have written language. Show them how to put ideas into writing if they don't and introduce record keeping. Show them that objects of differing mass fall at the same rate. Make sure they boil their water. Teach them how to tell time using sundials. With time there are varying types of clocks you could construct to help them keep track of things.

There are so many sorts of scientific things a modern person could know that these people possibly wouldn't. Uplift them and/or impress them enough that they think you're valuable with the knowledge you can provide.
And from my reading, his protagonist is actually magical, high powered at that, so it would be easy to awe and impress the locals into accepting them.
 
I will point out that he probably is going to have to actually teach the populace things unless he wants to be doing everything himself for rest his life. It just seems like the moral and smart thing to do to be better educating people and improving the overall quality of life and tech level for the populace.
Apparently he can basically summon Servants (Type-moon) to do that?
I know. That's why I brought in the MC. His powers include summoning otherworldly entities with knowledge on nearly any subject... including metallurgy. Imagine someone got downloaded with wikipedia, and can do 'summon unseen servant'.... only that the servant has supernatural powers to assist them in whatever their task is. Including building forges and refineries.
 
I'm kind of curious as to what's going to drive conflict in this case as this seems like a lot of power. Are their rival powers in the form of something like gods, mages, monster, demons, or the like that are a serious threat to the main character? Rival Isekais from their world or others?
He mentioned Snake men and Drow, both of which keep Humans as slaves.
 
Apparently he can basically summon Servants (Type-moon) to do that?
No, not really. By servants, I mean 'servants from another realm you can bind to yourself'. Think of them as more like strange biological tools to do things. Mostly inspired from Exalted. Like beings that can serve as incubation vats, or that act like construction machinery. Or chemical processing plants.

Anyway, I got an idea. I've been reading up. So basically, human civilisation didn't jumpstart due to sudden bursts of intelligence. It jumpstarted when it hit critical mass and people started talking to one another, letting each other build on their friend's work.

So I think I should have my sorcerer build the first city.. and then transform it into a hub for trade. And food. Never forget, delicious food. He's gonna have to introduce the pig, via magical biologicla engineering, and then cook delicious pork.
 
So I think I should have my sorcerer build the first city.. and then transform it into a hub for trade. And food. Never forget, delicious food. He's gonna have to introduce the pig, via magical biologicla engineering, and then cook delicious pork.
You can also specialize in manufacturing useful goods like textiles and tools since you'll have enough food to support specialized craftsmen (the city wouldn't have been built if there were no surplus to support the non-agricultural population).
 
You can also specialize in manufacturing useful goods like textiles and tools since you'll have enough food to support specialized craftsmen (the city wouldn't have been built if there were no surplus to support the non-agricultural population).
Yes. Basically, there are just some places that can't be moved. Like smiths, factories, looms, giant kilns.... probably have the city be the core of all infrastructure. Want a stainless steel knife or the best doctors? Go to The City.
 
Yes. Basically, there are just some places that can't be moved. Like smiths, factories, looms, giant kilns.... probably have the city be the core of all infrastructure. Want a stainless steel knife or the best doctors? Go to The City.
It could take the place of the political and religious center as well, with a neutral meeting place and great temple established in the city.
 
Horse drawn mobile forges were used by various militaries in both the US and Europe in the 1800s.

I will point out that religion has been repeatedly used as an effective tool of societal control and a lot of leaders throughout history have explicitly realized this. The character realizing this and backing an existing religion or political entity as a method of winning the people's hearts and minds via increasing legitamacy or setting themselves up as a god emperor or something (they are a powerful wizard after all so declaring themselves a god probably wouldn't be unbelievable) would be possible.
Or simply saying 'I don't know any gods. But I will let you worship as you wish, as long as you don't hurt anyone'.

Which can bring in complications. Everyone hates a centrist. And his own tribesmen will not like him for not explicitly backing them. I mean, you can write about how he tries to create a just, egalitarian society, encompassing a nation, while everyone still works on the tribal level.
 
But that would still be made in Isekai's city.

Which can bring in complications. Everyone hates a centrist. And his own tribesmen will not like him for not explicitly backing them. I mean, you can write about how he tries to create a just, egalitarian society, encompassing a nation, while everyone still works on the tribal level.
The solution is obviously Communism.

But seriously, I wonder how Ancient/Medieval Communism/Socialism would look like.
 
So there's this recent trend of isekai into a NTR world fics over at QQ.... which I might be at fault for being the first person to do it (even though I voice the idea a while back).

fics so far (no links obviously as they're all NSFW for some unexplained reason... I think it's because QQ's SFW section is basically a death sentence for fics so everyone just posts in the NSFW section):
-I got reincarnated to a NTR world, so I became a lawyer specializing in divorce law and made bank! : protag exploit the nature of such a world for his own benefit. Written by me
-How Can I Help or Can Good Counseling Stop Bad Ends? : protag attempts to reform the world, one person at a time. Written by UsurperOfTruth
-It's a Trash Fetish (Self-Insert) : protag goes vengeance on society. Written by Jackie Avocado
- A Totally Normal Guy in an NTR World. Promise. : protags with some baggage goes full terrorism on a world beyond repairing. Written by Vexin98
-The Fattest Bastard of them All (NTR World Insert) : protag embraces the perks of such a world. Written by Greyshaft
-A Succubus in NTR World : protag becomes horrifying demon and general fuckery. Written by Master Basher as an one off in the author's short story collection.

Generally all these fics in common are portraying a world running on hentai logic as extremely dysfunctional and horrifying.
 
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