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Baron Steakpuncher

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That isn't how the political spectrum works.
He is right though, "Socialists" is a general term to describe most of the left. "Liberals" as a general rule are on the centre right, if they're on the left they become social democrats, if they then become left economically its "democratic socialists". If you were to describe "communists" as the far left, you may be slightly closer to being correct but just as with "conservatives" its far too broad a term to properly place (The difference between say, Australian and American conservatives)
 

Vyor

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There are 2 kinds of liberal.

Social Liberal and Classical Liberal. This is what the left/right political spectrum looks like:

Socialists/Communists/Other Failed System that people say isn't real socialism, Progressives/Social Democrats, Social Liberal | Centrists | Classical Liberal, Conservatives, Theocrasy and similar failed purity driven ideology.

Meanwhile, at the Legion of Incompetence

(Passed 30 to 2)
Moron.
 

Baron Steakpuncher

Proletarian Puncher of Steaks
There are 2 kinds of liberal.

Social Liberal and Classical Liberal. This is what the left/right political spectrum looks like:

Socialists/Communists/Other Failed System that people say isn't real socialism, Progressives/Social Democrats, Social Liberal | Centrists | Classical Liberal, Conservatives, Theocrasy and similar failed purity driven ideology.



Moron.

..... Nein zat iss not how ziss works at all.

Centrism iss not an ideology.
 

Vyor

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..... Nein zat iss not how ziss works at all.

Centrism iss not an ideology.
It is, however, where someone that doesn't fit on either side. If you want a free market but also want single payer or state run utilities or something you certainly aren't on the right... but you also aren't on the left.

That's why I called it a spectrum, not a list of ideologies(social dem isn't an ideology either).
 

Baron Steakpuncher

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It is, however, where someone that doesn't fit on either side. If you want a free market but also want single payer or state run utilities or something you certainly aren't on the right... but you also aren't on the left.

That's why I called it a spectrum, not a list of ideologies(social dem isn't an ideology either).
Nein, zat vould make you a Social Democrat, what you just descibed. It's what the European left as a whole and apart of the democratic party (bernie and his ilk) are.

Centrism means you are in some perfect middle, which does not exist since no one can define what the ends are.

Right and left are economy, progressive and reactionary are social policies. Stalinists are social reactionary (ish) and economic left (very), while "liberals" are economic right and socially progressive (ish).

What you are theoretically describing would make the person a light social democrat.
 

Vyor

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Nein, zat vould make you a Social Democrat, what you just descibed. It's what the European left as a whole and apart of the democratic party (bernie and his ilk) are.

Centrism means you are in some perfect middle, which does not exist since no one can define what the ends are.

Right and left are economy, progressive and reactionary are social policies. Stalinists are social reactionary (ish) and economic left (very), while "liberals" are economic right and socially progressive (ish).

What you are theoretically describing would make the person a light social democrat.


Spectrum. See that, how green, yellow, and some red is in the center? It's not an exact center.
 

Baron Steakpuncher

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Spectrum. See that, how green, yellow, and some red is in the center? It's not an exact center.
Zat is still not centrist. It can be social democrat or third way liberal or whatever, but it is not magical centrism because that describes exactly nothing. Centre-right, might be a description for the variety of ideologies which are socially conservative but not to a republican extent, while centre left is a term covers social democrats and their ilk, but "centrist", means nothing.
 

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