The MG-34 was replaced with the MG-42 because the MG-34 was expensive for an MG. Yeah, the MG with the absolutely ridiculous rate of fire is cheaper. The only reason that MG-34s were still used was because it simply needed the firing action twisted and pull the barrel out, not opening up to the side and pull the barrel out that way.>Glorified nerfed Type 96/99 LMG vs semi-modern GPMG.
God this debate annoys me so much.
Yes, in SOME situations a gun like the bren is superior, but as a machinegun, for spraying rounds at targets, assisting riflemen, and defending, the MG series is hell of a lot better.
>Implying that the Japanese made original anything>Glorified nerfed Type 96/99 LMG vs semi-modern GPMG.
God this debate annoys me so much.
Yes, in SOME situations a gun like the bren is superior, but as a machinegun, for spraying rounds at targets, assisting riflemen, and defending, the MG series is hell of a lot better.
Hmmm...? Zeno never mentioned the MG-34?The MG-34 was replaced with the MG-42 because the MG-34 was expensive for an MG. Yeah, the MG with the absolutely ridiculous rate of fire is cheaper. The only reason that MG-34s were still used was because it simply needed the firing action twisted and pull the barrel out, not opening up to the side and pull the barrel out that way.
>Implying that the Japanese made original anything
Bruh, most of WW2 Japanese stuff was pretty damned original, knee mortar is such a niche and unique weapon.
>Literally half of it was just a copy or reversed engineer'd gun with a "Type" stamped on
Bombs on a stick were much better than knee mortar's!
Only heretics are the ones who like something that looks like a car tyre air pump :v
Only heretics are the ones who like something that looks like a car tyre air pump :v
So was european stuff. It's just that Japan only had europe to license from, so it looked like they relied on others moreso. when europeans all constantly swapped and borrowed the same stuff as well.>Literally half of it was just a copy or reversed engineer'd gun with a "Type" stamped on
>Literally half of it was just a copy or reversed engineer'd gun with a "Type" stamped on
Good thing I never said Europe was 100% original :vSo was european stuff. It's just that Japan only had europe to license from, so it looked like they relied on others moreso. when europeans all constantly swapped and borrowed the same stuff as well.
>4 examplesHandgun=Nambu=Original
Rifle=Arisaka=Original
SMG=Type 100=Original
LMG=Type 96/99=Original
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>4 examples
:v
Nambu's are just Luger's acting like a Mauser.
Arisaka's, ye, original.
The Type 100 was based on the SIG Bergman 1920, of which in turn was based on the MP-18.
The type 96/99 was based on a Czech design, same as the Bren actually, so no, not really original.
Wow, 1 out of 4, nice :V
no offence but all guns are based on other guns. at least 99 percent of them outside of like, the firsts of every type of gun. You could trace the AK 12 to the STG. The STG to other german automatic weapons, those weapons to WW1 weapons, those to british Colonial automatic weaponry, those to Rifles, and so on and so forth.Good thing I never said Europe was 100% original :v
>4 examples
:v
Nambu's are just Luger's acting like a Mauser.
Arisaka's, ye, original.
The Type 100 was based on the SIG Bergman 1920, of which in turn was based on the MP-18.
The type 96/99 was based on a Czech design, same as the Bren actually, so no, not really original.
Wow, 1 out of 4, nice :V
The MG-34 is the 'father' of GMGs while the MG-42 was the MG-34's successor...Hmmm...? Zeno never mentioned the MG-34?
Nope, you've misinterpreted my logic :vBy that logic, pretty much all automatic weapons are 'based' on the original machineguns. ;|
Every gun has inspiration, but they are unique.
Also, the type 96/99 has nothing in common with the Bren/Czech guns, apart from their appearance.
I know they are, that's how engineering new products work... But I'm not on about the full on "let's find the first gun" I am exclusively on about how the Japs did not have that guns in the state Zeno was claiming them to be in... I.E. Majority original/ have a license monopoly. The Japs had a reputation for not being home growers of new guns and to claim otherwise is outright false.no offence but all guns are based on other guns. at least 99 percent of them outside of like, the firsts of every type of gun. You could trace the AK 12 to the STG. The STG to other german automatic weapons, those weapons to WW1 weapons, those to british Colonial automatic weaponry, those to Rifles, and so on and so forth.
I'm not even gonna bother if you fail to pay attention and answer properly... Again... NOBODY brought the MG-34 up!The MG-34 is the 'father' of GMGs while the MG-42 was the MG-34's successor...
Problem, Spandau includes the MG-34...I'm not even gonna bother if you fail to pay attention and answer properly... Again... NOBODY brought the MG-34 up!
No, the RPD is... antiquated at best when compared to even the BAR. Pan-mags are notoriously bad from a maintenance, reloading, reliability, and various other standpoints and most nations only used them if there are no other alternatives. Drums were a bit better, but most nations adopted a box-belt combo by the end of the war. ... that is from what I've heard.Clearly the winner is the RPD.
Damned American propaganda!No, the RPD is... antiquated at best when compared to even the BAR. Pan-mags are notoriously bad from a maintenance, reloading, reliability, and various other standpoints and most nations only used them if there are no other alternatives. Drums were a bit better, but most nations adopted a box-belt combo by the end of the war. ... that is from what I've heard.