Rabe
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so snake oil is fine to sell as long as you find someone who will buy it?Here's the quote itself
so snake oil is fine to sell as long as you find someone who will buy it?Here's the quote itself
And the sheer ignorance I've seen from "economists" like 40k who actually compare the EU to the US' Articles of Federation. Ugh, this is so idiotic.makes a certain kind a sense the US existing only due to being the gods chosen nation rome3.0, without being the US the EU must fall apart
You mean eCONomists?And the sheer ignorance I've seen from "economists" like 40k who actually compare the EU to the US' Articles of Federation. Ugh, this is so idiotic.
honestly EU is the closest we humans got to a bench-test of a single world stlye government, it's in civilzation best interest that it succeedAnd the sheer ignorance I've seen from "economists" like 40k who actually compare the EU to the US' Articles of Federation. Ugh, this is so idiotic.
It wouldn't probably succeed given how bad the situation is there. From what I've heard, out of the whole mess only Germany is going to be doing well in the near future with the rest of the EU going down the drink. France's economy is not doing that well, Italy looks like it's going to have an economic meltdown, Greece is going to have problems again, Brexit is a thing...honestly EU is the closest we humans got to a bench-test of a single world stlye government, it's in civilzation best interest that it succeed
guess who was on Team BWe probably do have Nixon to blame for it.
Without having a source on hand to cite, I remember reading in a book about modern conservatism (albeit it was written in like '09) and how so many of the thought leaders behind Republican tactics today were old Nixon-staffers that were still bitter he got forced out of office over Watergate, etc, and how one of them supposedly said that if Nixon had had his own friendly media outlet, nothing would have gone wrong.
Because ultimately, we can blame the rise of right wing media reaching the public sphere for the constant radicalization - first to Fox, and then to PatriotMAGA12121 or whatever the latest screed website is. And we can blame those Nixon staffers and their intellectual heirs for giving rise to the monster that has gone and eaten a lot of them or at least escaped their control.
it makes too many peolpe safer,happy and richer, Breixt is going to be the glue that binds them together no one is going to want to be the beneficary of the marshal plan 2 like the uk in six monthsIt wouldn't probably succeed given how bad the situation is there. From what I've heard, out of the whole mess only Germany is going to be doing well in the near future with the rest of the EU going down the drink. France's economy is not doing that well, Italy looks like it's going to have an economic meltdown, Greece is going to have problems again, Brexit is a thing...
Yeah, the EU is looking like it's going to fail.
LOL, thank you for illustrating perfectly what I've been saying. We hear from your side's pundits about the imminent failure of the EU every two weeks for, what, 50 years? Mostly because we dare to work with different principles than the messiahs' Holy Truth.It wouldn't probably succeed given how bad the situation is there. From what I've heard, out of the whole mess only Germany is going to be doing well in the near future with the rest of the EU going down the drink. France's economy is not doing that well, Italy looks like it's going to have an economic meltdown, Greece is going to have problems again, Brexit is a thing...
Yeah, the EU is looking like it's going to fail.
without a strong man expy(king/president/dictator) to hang authority on some folks still can't accept a government can be succesfulLOL, thank you for illustrating perfectly what I've been saying. We hear from your side's pundits about the imminent failure of the EU every two weeks for, what, 50 years?
They refuse the very notion of the State...without a strong man expy(king/president/dictator) to hang authority on some folks still can't accept a government can be succesful
blame the way the USA got started, the folks who could have done that right saw shay's rebellion and thought they needed a stocking horse to point angry mobs at while they tried to fix things so they borrowed the dictator from the old republic,They refuse the very notion of the State...
Problem with that is that politics has a lot stemming from economics, and France's economic situation is poor to say the least. To say less of Italy and Greece and their economic situation, the better. Out of the major countries in the EU, only Germany isn't on thin ice at best economically.it makes too many peolpe safer,happy and richer, Breixt is going to be the glue that binds them together no one is going to want to be the beneficary of the marshal plan 2 like the uk in six months
Yes, yes, of course, my dear. Should we take a look at the US deficit again? ;-)Problem with that is that politics has a lot stemming from economics, and France's economic situation is poor to say the least. To say less of Italy and Greece and their economic situation, the better. Out of the major countries in the EU, only Germany isn't on thin ice at best economically.
UK proved debt was the other guys problem back 18thcentury, it will hold and grow because that is what the people who make it up wantProblem with that is that politics has a lot stemming from economics, and France's economic situation is poor to say the least. To say less of Italy and Greece and their economic situation, the better. Out of the major countries in the EU, only Germany isn't on thin ice at best economically.
And if debt was a problem, the utterly massive US debt AND deficit should terrify the same pundits who doomsay the EU. But then, "economics" is a variable-geometry field, which allows the same rules to say whatever you want.UK proved debt was the other guys problem back 18thcentury, it will hold and grow because that is what the people who make it up want
well money being what it is, people when pressed would rather have civilzation then nothing right?And if debt was a problem, the utterly massive US debt AND deficit should terrify the same pundits who doomsay the EU. But then, "economics" is a variable-geometry field, which allows the same rules to say whatever you want.
just throwing this out here as an example of how debt is the lenders problemThe US debt and deficit is a problem. But at least we could thereotically inflation ourselves out of debt (bad idea, of course). But the EU having one monetary policy and twenty-odd fiscal policies is a bit of an issue. On the other hand, that hardly means the EU is likely to fall tomorrow or even next week or whatever. It may go through some hard times, or it may do very well going forward, it's hard to say. Shedding some countries that get taken over by Euroskeptics may (may) help it, in some ways.
I'm not saying issuse more debt I'm saying roll the taxcode back to 50's(with modernazation), the debt it self isn't a threat we can not address and frankly has hardly ever been such a threat in most of recorded human history, as a country folding costs everyone more them you can try to claw back from it's corpseYeah, pretty much. Now, of course, if we screw ourselves over like that no one will ever lend us money again for a long time, or at least not at good rates. We (The US) can borrow so much money because people believe we're good for it.