Rufus Shinra
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Why should anyone listen to an actor for political opinions?
THANK YOUWhy should anyone listen to an actor for political opinions?
I feel....strange now.Bah, that was part of the gag, an Aussie talking in French to a Frog answering in English.
It's an American thing. But she can influence a lot of people (which is pretty much the only thing that matters in politics). In this case, though, it doesn't seem she's spouting BS (I didn't watch the video, so I won't talk about the proposition(s) to fix it) but at least, she's not blind to the truth. That's more than most elected officials in the US...Why should anyone listen to an actor for political opinions?
No. Arnold Schwarzenegger.THANK YOU
The last time that happened we got REAGAN.
She hijacked the fan base and writings of the author of the Hunger Games to enhance her public image. She's an incredibly selfish person and is not to be trusted. PERIOD (just look at the video I posted earlier), not to mention the ideology behind THG is harmful enough without being hijacked by FemTrump.It's an American thing. But she can influence a lot of people (which is pretty much the only thing that matters in politics). In this case, though, it doesn't seem she's spouting BS (I didn't watch the video, so I won't talk about the proposition(s) to fix it) but at least, she's not blind to the truth. That's more than most elected officials in the US...
If you don't want a real life PUBG, you hate freedom.She hijacked the fan base and writings of the author of the Hunger Games to enhance her public image. She's an incredibly selfish person and is not to be trusted. PERIOD (just look at the video I posted earlier), not to mention the ideology behind THG is harmful enough without being hijacked by FemTrump.
I don't care about THG. This is a more serious matter than movies. And if the only thing you have to oppose argument on the political system are movies, then you should really attack the argument and not her person.She hijacked the fan base and writings of the author of the Hunger Games to enhance her public image. She's an incredibly selfish person and is not to be trusted. PERIOD (just look at the video I posted earlier), not to mention the ideology behind THG is harmful enough without being hijacked by FemTrump.
READ:I don't care about THG. This is a more serious matter than movies. And if the only thing you have to oppose argument on the political system are movies, then you should really attack the argument and not her person.
I have a spoiler for you: this message discussed in the article? It doesn't come from THG, but from your entire education and representation of History. You've been told for decades that there are good people and bad people, that if you destroy the bad people, then everything will go alright, that if you hit the army's keystone, then, poof, everything goes better without trouble. The enemy's gate is down, Ender. Fire the proton torpedo and upload the virus into Mount Doom (movie version, not book version where the Shire still gets fucked hard afterwards by the remnants). You can win just by hitting the weak point and it'll end the war the way we all want.
It's the same thing when most people's knowledge of History is this very same storytelling. You've been sold a way of looking at the notion of war, of conflict, that makes it look so simple: kill the bad guy and everything goes better afterwards. Achieving happiness through destruction is nowhere new in movies, and it shows a strong lack of awareness from the article's author to portray THG as something special when it ultimately is nothing more than a teenage fantasy of power and rebellion.That's not history, that's storytelling.
From what I gathered, the author was arguing against THG, not in favor of it. (Edit: and the "So yes, it isn't JUST THG, it is indeed US cultural products and their inability to ever be a reliable source of Historical information due to the fundamental misrepresentation of facts on the ground" post that was inadvertently contributing to derailment lol)it shows a strong lack of awareness from the article's author to portray THG as something special when it ultimately is nothing more than a teenage fantasy of power and rebellion.
My original point that I'd tried to make amidst a fury of being without nicotine for three hours and running out of coffee and medicine in my system simultaneously was THIS. I am socially retarded and I apologise. But the point is that people trying to make THG to be some sort of special child that has some secret encoded message for violent revolution are dangerous, and that an incredibly influential person with reach to millions of people is spreading dangerous backwards thinking borne out of a STORY not REALITYThat's not history, that's storytelling.
That is almost the exact polar opposite of what I am saying. If you fight authoritarian violence with violence you lose and die and get a lot of innocent people needlessly killed because of your stupidity.So what you're saying is... we should take out Maduro to fix Venezuela.
Yes, while missing the entire forest for the tree, acting as if it was in any way or shape special.From what I gathered, the author was arguing against THG, not in favor of it.
Not just cultural products, education, politics and so on. The duality between "good" and "evil" is prevalent all over your civilization, just look at the polarization there: once you've classified someone as the bad guy, there's no compromise possible until they bend the knee and accept your moral guidance. The other party must be bad because yours is good. Your political system must be good, so others are necessarly bad and to be corrected in due time. World War II is portrayed as such an issue of killing the bad guys and everything gets better with the good German and Japanese people freed from the bad people. The Revolution is portrayed as taking arms to destroy the bad things and poof, magically having good things happen, and so on, and on, until this manichean vision of the world is almost everywhere. Almost, 'cause there are some great works showing the mess, but these aren't that popular or influential over the masses.You have a way with words that I do not. Its primarily the corporate media in general, but THG is just one of many examples to back up the post above. (So yes, it isn't JUST THG, it is indeed US cultural products and their inability to ever be a reliable source of Historical information due to the fundamental misrepresentation of facts on the ground indicative therein. (I.E. that the world is somehow black and white when it is primarily GRAY)
Maybe they should look a bit further, in the place that is absolutely unthinkable for so many there: maybe some people talk about tearing the system down because the system doesn't work, no matter how perfect and divinely inspired it's supposed to be. That putting more and more duct tape on it to hide the issues isn't solving anything, rather reinforcing the perception that the system cannot be fixed.My original point that I'd tried to make amidst a fury of being without nicotine for three hours and running out of coffee and medicine in my system simultaneously was THIS. I am socially retarded and I apologise. But the point is that people trying to make THG to be some sort of special child that has some secret encoded message for violent revolution are dangerous, and that an incredibly influential person with reach to millions of people is spreading dangerous backwards thinking borne out of a STORY not REALITY
I understand that 100%, as I used to be one of those people. The problem is I started doing research and educating myself as to what happens when people try to tear the system down through violent means.Maybe they should look a bit further, in the place that is absolutely unthinkable for so many there: maybe some people talk about tearing the system down because the system doesn't work, no matter how perfect and divinely inspired it's supposed to be. That putting more and more duct tape on it to hide the issues isn't solving anything, rather reinforcing the perception that the system cannot be fixed.
Look also at what happens when you put the people back to the wall with an increasingly unworkable system.I understand that 100%, as I used to be one of those people. The problem is I started doing research and educating myself as to what happens when people try to tear the system down through violent means.
So simple. So elegant.We should also take out Kim Jong Un to solve the Korean war while we're at it.
America never solved the world's problems.America is really tired of solving the world's problems y'know. Perhaps we should kill who runs the world next to-
Hold on let me think about this.
Decapitation strikes only work when the target doesn't have access to H-Bombs...We should also take out Kim Jong Un to solve the Korean war while we're at it.
Hey the American 2020 election is live-action shitposting, so you're at least partially on topic unlike we were hahaMaybe next time you guys will keep your serious post out of the shitposting thread and I'll keep my shitposting out of the serious thread.
No promises.
I completely agree with you here - the Hunger Games movies are horrible, kids killing kids... but the video I've posted isn't about that, it's about explaining one of the fundamental problems of US politics - renaming corruption to lobbying and thinking that that will make it OK - and a possible (absolutely non-violent) approach to beating it. It's well argued IMO, and it isn't actually out of Jennifer's head, she's in it using her popularity to advocate the ideas of somebody else. Which I think is commendable.My original point that I'd tried to make amidst a fury of being without nicotine for three hours and running out of coffee and medicine in my system simultaneously was THIS. I am socially retarded and I apologise. But the point is that people trying to make THG to be some sort of special child that has some secret encoded message for violent revolution are dangerous, and that an incredibly influential person with reach to millions of people is spreading dangerous backwards thinking borne out of a STORY not REALITY