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2020 Democratic Party Presidential Primaries Thread

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Well with Castro out, that only leaves 14 people left in the race to become the Democratic nominee for President. Rather surprised he lasted this long. Wonder who will drop out next.
 
Yang can self-fund if he really wants to do so, but he must know by now that he doesn't stand a chance.

I think that the next one out will be Klobuchar from among the ones that matter enough to qualify for the debates.

Some others are still sticking it out without the debates to give them a platform, but they all are dead in the water and sinking fast. Most people would say "Who? Oh, he/she is still in the race?", which means that there is zero chance of getting the nomination.

I already forgot about Castro, and had to remind myself of several others who are still running. I think that even counting those who can;t muster the numbers to get in on the debates should be automatically discounted since their dropping out or not will make absolutely no difference in how this plays out.
 
Wonder who will drop out next.

Who had money on Marianne!?🙋‍♀️🙋‍♂️ Also... who remembered that Marianne was still running!? 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♂️

In a post on her website, Williamson said "we will not be able to garner enough votes in the election to elevate our conversation any more than it is now." Williamson has barely registered in the polls and struggled in fundraising since launching her bid for president last January.
 
Looked up Marianne and I'm surprised that she lasted for so long considering that she seems to be a anti-vaxxer. Weird.
 



So the Iowa Dems caucus is somewhat of a disaster at the moment and alot of people are pissed off about how it turned out.


Some candidates gave victory like speeches without any results.


Also Iowans well aware of what a disaster this is.
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Well the only positive thing I can say about all this is just the hilarity of this glorious shit show.
 
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And there are a lot of new Twitter bots out spewing the same garbage. Trumpy fans the flames by saying that Bernie is being wiped out by the DNC, the Bernie Bros take the bait and make salty tears, and there is a likelihood that the foreign influencers are still at the same game.

Naturally, despite this all happening four years ago, people are falling for this bullshit conspiracy nonsense. Despite all the rhetoric of being against Trumpy, they are fully content to hand him another win by not being able to focus for more than a minute at a time.
 
I wouldn't put it past them.

aside from that this whole night has been cathartic because it has put a dent in Biden's electability claims.

a Buttigieg presidency is horrifying but its almost worth it to watch Biden squirm.
 
side from that this whole night has been cathartic because it has put a dent in Biden's electability claims.
Not really in the grand scheme of things. Biden has the all-important African American vote and likely a good chunk of the Latino vote so far, and those skew conservative. Iowa was going to be underperforming and NH is going to be underperforming because that's Bernies's state. Wait until Super Tuesday and NC first.
 
Not really in the grand scheme of things. Biden has the all-important African American vote and likely a good chunk of the Latino vote so far, and those skew conservative. Iowa was going to be underperforming and NH is going to be underperforming because that's Bernies's state. Wait until Super Tuesday and NC first.

Really? Joe "Handsy Creeper, Asset forfeiture and Mass incarceration" Biden as the frontrunner? African American and Hispanic voters would mutiny at "racist old white guy" being the Democratic nominee, and he's worse than Michael "Stop and Frisk" Bloomberg. And the other frontrunner is Pete "The Horned Rat" Buttigieg. Warren and Sanders have the best chance against Trump.
 
I wouldn't like to be in the team of whoever wins the primaries, so much more work to write a passable concession speech before November.

Im not that doomer yet.

Well I will be if biden or Bloomberg win or buttigieg.

I'm.not sure on klobuchar.

Sanders I'm hopeful but I'm trying to be relaistic.
 

Also apparently this guy was running as well. I think that leaves like nine candidates left now. Though Deval Patrick seems to be weighing ending his campaign so it might be eight tomorrow.
 
Really? Joe "Handsy Creeper, Asset forfeiture and Mass incarceration" Biden as the frontrunner? African American and Hispanic voters would mutiny at "racist old white guy" being the Democratic nominee, and he's worse than Michael "Stop and Frisk" Bloomberg. And the other frontrunner is Pete "The Horned Rat" Buttigieg. Warren and Sanders have the best chance against Trump.
Both Biden and Bloomberg are doing extremely well with black voters because they're staunch advocates of gun control. The crime bills that Biden voted for were supported by the Congressional Black Caucus
 
Eh Biden and Bernie both have a similar ish problem with the black community.

Bidens is all of his black support dies (well one could say is dying) if it goes anywhere below 45.

Bernies seems to teeter off around the same age. his strongest is 18-25.

on support in general. Well if research into progress in the past is any indication the split in the community showing up as Biden/Bloomber or Bernie.

Is perfectly in line with history and makes sense.
 
Both Biden and Bloomberg are doing extremely well with black voters because they're staunch advocates of gun control. The crime bills that Biden voted for were supported by the Congressional Black Caucus

Bloomberg and Biden are among the reasons America has more prisoners than anywhere else in the world, and among the reasons black people go to prison for existing, if not getting killed on the streets by police.

That being said, it's interesting how pro gun control politicians go "American soldiers and police kill brown/black people for funsies!" suddenly go "they are the only people who should be trusted with guns!". That's kind of a Pick One.
 
Bloomberg and Biden are among the reasons America has more prisoners than anywhere else in the world, and among the reasons black people go to prison for existing, if not getting killed on the streets by police.

That being said, it's interesting how pro gun control politicians go "American soldiers and police kill brown/black people for funsies!" suddenly go "they are the only people who should be trusted with guns!". That's kind of a Pick One.

Indeed.


anywho with Bernie having Won NH

and people pretending as if they weren't expecting Biden to win Iowa or NH and arguing this is fine.


it is very funny to watch people spin Bidens losses as temporary and not his campaign has recieved lots of nasty blows.

Warren is either done or she is hiding a secret.



on the whole I feel like sometimes Vote Blue No Matter Who seems to be like just a lie we tell ourselves is gonna work.

Also does anyone think the whole Dem civil war theory holds any weight?
 
Indeed.


anywho with Bernie having Won NH

and people pretending as if they weren't expecting Biden to win Iowa or NH and arguing this is fine.


it is very funny to watch people spin Bidens losses as temporary and not his campaign has recieved lots of nasty blows.

Warren is either done or she is hiding a secret.



on the whole I feel like sometimes Vote Blue No Matter Who seems to be like just a lie we tell ourselves is gonna work.

Also does anyone think the whole Dem civil war theory holds any weight?
What exactly is the Dem civil war theory?


Also as expected Deval dropped out.
 
What exactly is the Dem civil war theory?


Also as expected Deval dropped out.

the theory while I originally saw on SV I actually saw pop up other places.

the idea is that if its a brokered convention and basically there really is no clear winner. The fact that any one of these candidates could possibly win and has enough push and pull and passionate voters could prove disasterous if even after all the delegates are handed out its too close to call even picking a candidate is dangerous. The idea is that in said situation the resulting pick would lead to dem voters turning on each other because "vote blue no matter who is lies the other candidates voters would never vote for us"

it essentially means that the democratic party would turn on itself because the big tent party that it is trying to keep everyone from conservatives who aren't hitler to outright anarchists and socialists. Finally caused to democratic party to fracture to the point it can't function anymore.

The Dem Civil War theory is that The Democratic party would fracture because its big tent nature is too big and theres too many paths forward that they want to take. and any of the paths will massively piss off and alienate the other part of the party possibly leading to a Donald Trump victory. That the candidate will decide the future of america out of the Donald Trump era and depending on the candidate that can all be wildly different.

Basically Democratic party's big thing of being a big tent for everyone thats not republican and wants to win. would turn out to be a concept that stretched the party too thin and when it came to a decision that could decide the future of the Party the temptation of basically being in control and setting the tone of the party and the nation going forward is too tempting and it causes everyone to turn on each other.
 
I'm not sure if a contentious convention could cause that but if whatever Dem faction's presidential candidate loses in November well the state of Dem unity would not be great. Just a lot of factors to consider so it seems too early too make predictions for a Dem civil war happening or not.
 
Just a lot of factors to consider so it seems too early too make predictions for a Dem civil war happening or not.
  • If Bernie wins: everyone else pinches their noses and supports him
  • If anyone but Bernie wins: his cult starts another revolution, spreads conspiracies of rigged elections, then support Trumpy out of spite (just like four years ago)
The party kind of has a gun to its head. Vote in Bernie and be united, or the Mirror Universe Trumpet Team (MUTTs) sabotages the election. The makings for a civil war in my eyes.
 
  • If Bernie wins: everyone else pinches their noses and supports him
  • If anyone but Bernie wins: his cult starts another revolution, spreads conspiracies of rigged elections, then support Trumpy out of spite (just like four years ago)
The party kind of has a gun to its head. Vote in Bernie and be united, or the Mirror Universe Trumpet Team (MUTTs) sabotages the election. The makings for a civil war in my eyes.
Trouble with this is that Bloomberg is deliberately playing the spoiler by totally not participating in the process and presenting himself as the alternative.
 
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