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  1. Muldoon

    Fun fact about Yamato's 18.1 inch main gun turrets!

    You'd know right bruv? Anyway, regards Yahagi the attacks didn't arrive in two or three massive blocks of aircraft with nothing else in the time it took for the next batch to arrive. The aircraft didn't fire all their weapons in five minutes and then leave, they engaged in small groups across...
  2. Muldoon

    Fun fact about Yamato's 18.1 inch main gun turrets!

    I agree, I'm talking more the fact both ships are hugely famous, legendary even, and legends can eclipse truth Thanks to the actual Celene for that one am I right? She's much better at debating than you are Zeno, but how about you stop trying to look like you know shit and let the grown ups...
  3. Muldoon

    Fun fact about Yamato's 18.1 inch main gun turrets!

    now we're getting a debate Yet there we have it for Yahagi, she lasted two hours after taking that damage so she definitely didn't go down to one hit. Now Yahagi was a modern ship so I think it's reasonable to assume she had the best tech and designs available, but even so she has 10 percent...
  4. Muldoon

    Fun fact about Yamato's 18.1 inch main gun turrets!

    Thanks comrade, that helps.
  5. Muldoon

    Fun fact about Yamato's 18.1 inch main gun turrets!

    SO those are claims, not lies. First Yahagi was crippled by engine damage but remained floating, if not for the torps she'd have remained floating indefinitely. The torps sank her, though all those bombs probably helped. Torpedo defence is a very specific thing involving the hull design, void...
  6. Muldoon

    Fun fact about Yamato's 18.1 inch main gun turrets!

    Don't you want to talk about Yamato? Lying is very serious, I'm going to need you to point out where I lied.
  7. Muldoon

    Fun fact about Yamato's 18.1 inch main gun turrets!

    Thanks for proving the point so succinctly :D
  8. Muldoon

    Fun fact about Yamato's 18.1 inch main gun turrets!

    ad hominem /ad ˈhɒmɪnɛm/ adjective 1. (of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining. "an ad hominem response" adverb 1. in a way that is directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining. "these points come from...
  9. Muldoon

    Fun fact about Yamato's 18.1 inch main gun turrets!

    You're supposed to debate the facts. Like I provide a bunch of data to support my point, then you provide data to support yours and so on. That's how debates work among grown ups. Name calling is for children. So you debating or conceding Yamato is fatally flawed thanks to its metallurgy and...
  10. Muldoon

    Fun fact about Yamato's 18.1 inch main gun turrets!

    LOL Let me tell you how I see it. You don't like that your banzai Japan uber fetish is getting torpedoed by cold hard facts that don't care for your kinks and so you are doing all you can to distract from the debate and throwing ad hominems like a little bitch. take it easy Zeno
  11. Muldoon

    Fun fact about Yamato's 18.1 inch main gun turrets!

    We're debating Yamato aren't we? If a light cruiser is tanking almost as many hits as your mega ship then something has gone very wrong SHow me where I am being dishonest, explain it to me, don't assume malice where there may only be a lack of facts.
  12. Muldoon

    Fun fact about Yamato's 18.1 inch main gun turrets!

    Is it because I have a ton of facts backed with links you can't be arsed reading through and trying to understand? Because you'd see that they did test the exact same armour Yamato had which is where they found those facts. You'd also see that they discovered the turret face armour despite...
  13. Muldoon

    Fun fact about Yamato's 18.1 inch main gun turrets!

    If the armour had worked to keep the torp out it wouldn't have mattered, compare say the Nelson class defences with multiple layers and filled voids to absorb damage without allowing a breach in the main armour. But if you want a better comparison, Yamato took 11 torp hits to sink. One of her...
  14. Muldoon

    Fun fact about Yamato's 18.1 inch main gun turrets!

    this should do it The takeaway is that by mixing German principles Japan made a sample of extremely good armour, but it was late war and never used on any actual units. Purely experimental
  15. Muldoon

    Fun fact about Yamato's 18.1 inch main gun turrets!

    Prove the study is flawed, it references both the UK test you quoted and adds a US test that determined the same thing. The Yamato was made with techniques the UK abandoned in 1919 and had a dangerously brittle armour. Very tough for one hit, but that hit caused it to crack so a second hit in...
  16. Muldoon

    Fun fact about Yamato's 18.1 inch main gun turrets!

    I'll take this much lengthier and more scientific study http://www.navweaps.com/index_nathan/metalprpsept2009.php which rates IJN steel as equal to WWI UK steel in terms of quality due to a lack of nickel and molybdenum The high performance steel you reference in your example were not the...
  17. Muldoon

    The Brexit thread (or All -not- quiet on the western front)

    Shooting down Kaiseraboos is something we should all find joy in especially at this otherwise rather irritating time
  18. Muldoon

    The Brexit thread (or All -not- quiet on the western front)

    Can't you see I'm trying to smack the German wanking Yank here Frenchie? Surely there are some things we should be united on ;)
  19. Muldoon

    The Brexit thread (or All -not- quiet on the western front)

    Worst case no deal Brexit is still less damaging financially than the US triggered financial crash of 08, so chill. That didn't destroy the country and neither will this. Also thanks America.
  20. Muldoon

    Fun fact about Yamato's 18.1 inch main gun turrets!

    American warship armour was decidedly average in WWII, British armour was the best with German material coming in second as both nations had invested heavily in metallurgical research. The Japanese had the worst armour but compensated with quantity. Yamato was a very dangerous ship but it had a...

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