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Frozen in Carbonite

Arius
Arius
It ceased to impress me years ago. I'll never understand such conservative mindsets, no offense to them.
Sarcobite
Sarcobite
We could say the same about you brits.
Arius
Arius
Maybe but at least, Europeans tamed them a little. :p
Sarcobite
Sarcobite
Bah. We all know its only a matter of time before you europeans drop that facade of progesiveism and go imperialist again.
Horton
Horton
My views are probably what you'd describe as "utilitarian" and "empiricist" in nature which puts me towards the US Dem Party in views. I guess I would be described as a liberal, but I don't really do ideologies as I think they overall lead to poorer thinking. US Conservatives I think we need to say (UK Ones are more tame), have some absolute nutjobs running things and voters seem to mostly be a mixture of evangelical christians, anarcho-capitalists/libertarians and unfortunately actual racists (14% of the GOP voters are against interracial marriage for example according to Pew).

For politicians, well ignoring Trump, we have people like Ron Paul who wanted to bring the bloody Gold Standard back... (wtf)
Sarcobite
Sarcobite
And you support pol pot(unless thats a joke which i think it was) also i harbor some distaste towards utiltarianism, due to people on SB and reddit use it in an attempt to justify atrocities and injustice because ITs PrAgMaTiC. Has really caused subconscious annoyance towards it.
Horton
Horton
I just said my views lean towards the Dem Party, unless you're an idiot who compares Obama to Lenin because they're both "Socialist", I was quite obviously.
Arius
Arius
Oh believe me, I hope Europe will never go back to that mindset. With the sheer number of countries going crazy at the speed of light, I hope Europe, Canada and even the US (hopefully when Trump has been dealt with) will be the "shiny beacons" (or the saner ones, depending on your views) the world needs.... Otherwise China will play its hand, they're pragmatic, and they're damn good at it. Worldwide, we need to get back to the status quo ante bellum or it's going to be a mess.

I'm closer to the Dems too although compared to what we have in Belgium here, they're more on the right side of the political spectrum. US conservatives are definitely nuts. It's a shame that they dominate the more moderates Republicans. And let's not talk about the Cult of Trump.
Sarcobite
Sarcobite
Obamacare only works if your really poor
Horton
Horton
I do worry about the UK conservatives tbh...there's just a feeling I have after the whole brexit vote and talking to some of them that the more extreme elements might start to come to the surface...I mean US conservatives used to be more moderate, but come the 80s they started taking off into crazyvile, Reagan I guess and onwards and they just get worse and worse. I was trying to think of a Republican I respect and the first one that came to mind was Bernanke due to his work in the 2007 crisis, but he left the party...

Dems are basically normal people that aren't insane in the US. They have a right and left wing and I'm probably somewhere in the middle of that, if you ask me the US should've just let the south go in the 1800s lol...let them fall apart by themselves with their crappy economic model or reform.
Sarcobite
Sarcobite
Letting the south go would have set a bad precedent.
Sarcobite
Sarcobite
And there are plenty of insane/bad dems in the U.S. you got your SJW's and deluded people, your extremist antfia supporters, your corprate puppets and shills, warmongers.
Sarcobite
Sarcobite
And for brexit, you may get a bolsanaro equivulent, who aims towards militarism and nationalism, who vows to " rebuild britians once great empire" and "make the royal navy the terror of the seas again"
Arius
Arius
lol.
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